Was talking about Mastodon with an old-school sysadmin guy. We reached the realization that defederating from instances with no/bad moderation is essentially the same thing as blocking open relays back when you ran your own email server: open relays always end up getting used for spam, you block 'em to protect your users.

Email was and still is the first federated social network, so it already faced a lot of the same problems; we should study its solutions (and its failures).

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@nindokag @RobinHood But then you've got a bunch of bullshit older tech that can't understand clever email bits, so you re-create relays on your LAN because you value easy setup and know that absolutely none of your users will use it for spam because they don't know a single thing about any of the stuff the use that does the daily magic they all depend on. LOL.

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