Internet culture as such a weird combination of "everything is flawlessly recorded forever" and "you just had to be there". Everything is simultaneously permanent and ephemeral. We're drowning in records that have no context, and context that has no records

Addendum to this: as a budding historian, I'm almost a hundred percent sure that the main cultural things that will survive from the internet are going to be things that were passed down orally, and then written down, not the actual data itself. Sure everything is accessible now, but the amount of difficulty it takes to access things that aren't backwards compatible spikes over time as technology becomes obsolete. Imagine if some important document was only contained on a betamax tape.

@DayGloChainsaw This is the argument for self-destructing toots. Nobody needs to know what I ate for breakfast 5 years ago, least of all me.

@thatcosmonaut @DayGloChainsaw For real though, the villains speech in MGS2 is kind of mind blowing almost two decades on.

@rick_777 @thatcosmonaut @DayGloChainsaw Kojima wrote this in 2000/20001. I'm not a huge fan of MGS2, but that one scene is just bananas.

@DayGloChainsaw Except that the permanence is an illusion, we want to believe the fantasy that the digital world is immortal because it helps us run from our own mortality. Every blog ends with an epitaph that reads something like "I am a little too busy right now to write, but I hope to get back soon!" and then eventually it goes down. Sure we have the internet archive, but we also only have the internet archive.

@Alonealastalovedalongthe @DayGloChainsaw I often wonder what happens when platform capitalism loses its luster. When YouTube, twitter and Facebook are no longer profitable to run. They will, like goecities, be shut down. All of that content and context gone, because the only relevant factor was profit for a few, not the value for the many. But maybe it'll be for the better, to clear out the old once in a while.

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Immortality is overrated. Serious statement. The universe will undergo heat death in several trillion tears I'm told. Of course humans will be long gone by then, whether or not they ever come through with transferring individual consciousness to a digital platform. Which I doubt.

JMO, but life is a miracle, and death a necessity. I don;t want to last forever, I just want to be better than i was the day before until I die.

There was a chain of posts in reddit about a topic, something about Disney and corporate overlords. Suddenly everyone in /r/cyberpunk began posting cool futuristic logos of companies. Those posts were beautiful.

One year later you can't find them. They're practically lost. You can find them if you search carefully, but the events, as they unfolded, can't be retrieved.

The ephemeral internet is such an awful thing.


@Alonealastalovedalongthe @DayGloChainsaw "the internet is forever" mostly just means that anything you ever say can always come back to haunt you. It's always for ill though. You never regain control, and it's all one big police network.

@DayGloChainsaw the internet isn't forever. If it was, you'd know all my Friendster/MySpace friends. Also what AOL chats I hung out at. ... Fuck I'm old. Also, nets aren't forever. Just seems like it. Where's my Livejournal?

@Elmkast if you like that I write other stuff actually just ignore all the dumb bullshit

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So everything more than a month old feels like the first time I read Shakespeare in H.S., only without any helpful annotations from historians. Figures.

@DayGloChainsaw I figure after the cyberwars to come nothing much will survive. I mean stuff you store offline will last, but if we lose electricity that makes that essentially useless.

Consider how many books from antiquity were lost or destroyed that we only no about because someone's screed opposing them managed to survive lol.

@DayGloChainsaw IPFS tries to solve the problem of disappearing content. As long as people are interested in the content, it will stay available on the network:

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