Did you know you can bridge your posts between Bluesky and Mastodon?
If you truly want to control your data, you can also set up a Nostr account and bridge it to Mastodon and Bluesky.
By doing this, your posts remain yours—no one can take them down.
Feel free to contact me if you want to have more details
@hekenberg thanks for the tip,i am aware of the bridging possiblities, it's nice but nor for me, often my mastodon posts are slightly longer for example or a little bit different. The "communities" are different also (bluesky / mastodon)
I understand your point of view.
Different perspectives are what make discussions valuable—always open to insights and new angles.
@ErikJonker What worries me about Bluesky is that it is US-based and that they are so secretive and misleading about their ownership.
On their website, they have three paragraphs about the company, which are very vague and most likely wrong.
"Bluesky, the company, is a Public Benefit LLC. It is owned by Jay Graber and the Bluesky team."
Being a Public Benefit LLC would mean some mission statement in their statues. But to my knowledge they don't have these statues published on their website.
@ErikJonker and being owned by Jay Graber and the Bluesky team (who is that team? Every employee? Probably not) is certainly wrong. Did Twitter gift it to them or did they buy it? And what about the investors, who got an undisclosed amount of shares? So even if it was true in the beginning, it's not anymore.
@ErikJonker I wouldn't be surprised if Bluesky is already compromised, and its goal for now is to collect all the X and Meta refugees until it becomes relevant, and then drop the pretence and go the same way as the other platforms.
@weddige @ErikJonker I saw something a few weeks ago about some people who had set up an EU based Bluesky instance, backed by a Dutch IT firm.
Unfortunately I can no longer find it anywhere. I’m also not sure how it would work technically and legally as presumably they would need to license the Bluesky name.
@LeonardoDiOttio @ErikJonker this might have been a PDS (personal data server). Bluesky doesn't work via instances like Mastodon, but has different components, that can or could be selfhosted.
Hosting a PDS is relatively easy and allows you to keep your account on your own server. The challenging part is the Relay, which aggregates the data of all PDS. Hosting a relay is prohibitively expensive and as far as I'm aware, there is only the official one.
@ErikJonker there is the #freeourfeeds initiative that will replicate an atproto relay. Subject to technical / economic factors it wil put to rest the (reasonable) fears about bluesky.
My gut feeling is that because of different architectures, the two protocols will give rise to different online exchanges. Bluesky type cathedrals vs #activitypub type community houses.
And much depends on the client software we use - which is a bit stagnant. We could have a common interface to all these.
@openrisk @ErikJonker You realise that turned out to be a blockchain play, right?
@aral @ErikJonker indeed saw something related today that did not quite make sense as a vision. I hope its not inability to secure funding that pushes in that direction. I guess we'll hear more...
@ErikJonker yeah I’m the same. There’s all the same weaknesses that twitter had with bsky.
@ErikJonker Openvibe is a great app (imo) to cross post on Mastodon/Bluesky and to have a universal timeline https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.plebstr.client
@matthieum I have used it , it's great