Apparently when you travel to the US, free speech is not allowed. Vance comments in Europe about freedom and free speech sound more hollow then ever before.
"The tactics have unnerved foreign tourists and sent a chill through immigrant communities in the United States, who say they are being targeted for speech — not for breaking any laws."
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/21/us/politics/trump-immigration-visa-crackdown.html?unlocked_article_code=1.6U4.sMBd.d5ilR1okVqBZ&smid=url-share
#usa #freespeech #tourism #immigrants #vance #trump
@ErikJonker Some countries are now publishing explicit warning to not visit the US because of migration officers acting utterly arbitrary.
@alterelefant @ErikJonker forget Russia or China as the biggest threats to the US...
@mt @ErikJonker Russia and China have been off limits for a while now. The USA has joined the list of countries you'd beter not visit. There is no reason for the US to be so much anti Europe / EU. Other than that the orange president in the White House is a Russian asset who does exactly what his master in the Kremlin tells him to do. The US is lost. It has a king and the people of the US better get rid of their king.
@ErikJonker This thread is relevant in this context. There is an emergence of a dual justice system in the U.S.: one for 'us' and one for 'them', with the 'them' category growing. It is the only way to execute on this kind of 'doublespeak'.
Following up on my previous post; this is why it is important to have equal rights within a nation.
In the Netherlands the government condones illegal workers who have basically no rights. It is the same principle.
This two system approach artificially increases the spending power in the Netherlands; and at the same time it has the capacity to blow up the system.
Extending this a bit; same principle applies for a large group of people who are put in competition with the illegal workers.
But that’s the goal of the super rich in the United States, where net worth determines your legal rights and liberties.
If it isn’t already abundantly clear to people everywhere in the world, the super rich in the US are dismantling it and intend to replace the nation with their absolute rule.
They are deliberately inflicting, hunger, poverty, sickness and death upon us to subjugate us. The rich are waging war on us. Nothing less.
@ErikJonker it’s time to also actively boycott science and tech conferences hosted on US soil https://boycott-ietf127.org/
Now that the US can no longer guarantee the safety of those who travel to attend these conferences, it’s time to actively isolate them from the rest of the academic community.
摏 @fabio @ErikJonker Science, tech, art, law... ANY conference.
For those of us who need context, myself included:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Engineering_Task_Force
See also IETF 130. https://www.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming/
i am more flabbergasted this is still aloowed to go on.
Maybe we should do the same to American tourists comming to the EU, and see how fast they will cry foul
@ErikJonker Yes, they've dumped the constitution. Stay away from fascist states like usa and russia. There is increasingly less difference between the two.
@ErikJonker this is in purpose so people from democratic country will not put what is happening in perspective.
Best not to have a tattoo either!
@ErikJonker Well, the 'Freedom of Speech' obviously applies to 'us'! And 'they are illegals who should shut up!'