Need to make a videoconference?
You can use "fully encrypted" open-source #Jitsi:
Thanks @ChatonsOrg !
If you install #Jitsi on your server, edit the file
and comment these lines:
// The STUN servers that ..
@FuckOffGoogleZurich #Jitsi is a very cool piece of software but some instances aren't that cool.The official instance https://meet.jit.si is the worst option.It's hosted at #Amazon AWS and includes third-party tracking,even some by #Google 👎 The instance https://visio.education.gouv.fr doesn't load at all for me 😕 All others on your list seem to be fine.I checked third-party requests and server hosters.
A good reading:
How the fact that binaries can be distributed alone could change the fact that it source code can be re-used? (and thus a "jtisi-2" be shared and modificated by other people)
It doesn't. But how likely is that to happen?
It is like saying: if there is no law forcing companies/people to pay taxes, how could that change the fact that they can still pay taxes?
Again, it doesn't. But how likely is that they keep paying taxes?
In fact, it is worse than that: a company could hire some/all of the original developers, fork the code, close it, shut down the repository and the documentation, etc.
Everything will contribute to kill the original public branch.
I've been thinking about this issue. If we maintain a copy up to date of this repo, then if the situation exposed in your last message happen, everybody can just pursue the development of this backup thank to the licence?
@FuckOffGoogleZurich @ChatonsOrg I've tried Jitsi before, but it does not work with Firefox on Linux. When I log in, it warns me that I need to switch to Chrome, and after about two minutes of operation, the audio dies. The only thing which seems to work reliably is chat.
I'm going to say that even Jitsi isn't ready for prime time yet.
* Which #Jitsi instance have you used?
All instances above (except alolise.org and gouv.fr) give no problems nor warnings here with Firefox on Linux
* Jitsi-meet requires scripts to run: make sure they are not blocked by add-ons (like uMatrix)
* bandwidth problem: some small instances seem having troubles these days (possibly because of sudden increase of users). Can you try with https://jitsi.riot.im and report any issues? (Or better: open a ticket on git)
@vertigo @FuckOffGoogleZurich @ChatonsOrg Today I learned that Firefox has not implemented WebRTC
and if only one person uses it, then the whole conference goes slow or nuts. Firefox has several feature requests, one two years old. Some people are asking to solve it now since the need.
Which blame? It's just a warning.
I had the same experience a few years ago, I believe this has to do with not having a 3rd party server. jami is E2E encrypted and P2P which is awesome. I believe that the service isgetting better over time. I will give Jami another chance. Being a distributed network you would assume that having more users will make it better.
Btw I'd rather have some messages drop than some messages leaked!
Also for example #Briar does the same without dropping messages and notifies immediately!!
Jami at the moment is not usable by a newbie so it's difficult to invite friends. I hope this will change in the future.
Briar is interesting but we looking for video chat in this topic and for what i know it doesn't have this feature.
There are other alternatives but should be tested.
For now we have to spread jitsi meet.
@foss I also tryied to learn the basics of jami without luck. As I am not an english speaking person, looking at a video about jami I've not unerstood if it's based on the ethereum blockchain. In such a case maybe the delay is due to the fact that, working on a PoW blockchain , messages don't get approved by the miners
I just tried Jami again -I am keeping an eye on it (or Ring) since long time.
However, like in the past, it does not work at all for me (Debian 10, standard apt-get. Their .deb does not install). It gets stuck in "Connecting..." or "Searching". The tiny red/orange/green dot on top remains orange (a remote friend got it green).
I gave a look on their git issue tracker, but quite some instructions are outdated. After 30 minutes of trying I gave up...
There is no difference if they **all** agree.
But if one or more contributors disagree, #GPL code **must** stay open, while Apache code can still be closed.
People contributing unpaid to an #Apache project should know that anybody (like #Google) can tomorrow turn their contributions into a proprietary program.
The debugging phase alone can be very lucrative this way.
@FuckOffGoogleZurich @vishnuvk re jitsi tho, i use it and encourage others to, but i also often have problems, with connection quality, with options not working, etc. the desktop app won’t even load on my debian laptop. i feel like it makes it hard for such a project to rly take off. ppl easily run out of patience and return to apple or microsoft software if it’s more seamless (seeming). i also don’t know if the devs rly want it to take off?
@hirojin @FuckOffGoogleZurich The sad thing is that STUN enables end-to-end encrypted WebRTC connections between a pair of peers, so it is nice to have for that use case (it isn't used in a conference with more than two participants). I'm not certain if configuring different public STUN endpoints would be useful, unless they don't collect metadata.
It would probably be more useful to extend the Jitsi quicksetup automation to include config for a local STUN server.
@AbbieNormal because it don't work when people try it. it will hopefully some day :)
it mostly works
I used it in a video call with a friend of mine
It doesn't ring, ok
People are so impatient 😕
Here the long instances list. If anybody knows one that is not there, please edit the wiki.
I tried, but I can't take someone whose display name is ZURICH - FUCK OFF GOOGLE seriously.
@Downes I think it's more of a movement than a person, to be honest. There's one for Berlin, too (and it was so successful Google ditched their plans to build an office there)
Server run by the main developers of the project It is not focused on any particular niche interest - everyone is welcome as long as you follow our code of conduct!