Is it just me or the position of "newer"/"older" buttons on public profiles is really annoying with "older" being on the left rather than right?
@Gargron I prefer "older" on the left because older pages in a book fall on the left side. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@Gargron ... that feels intuitive to me? ( with "older" being in the ( at least US? ) constitutional "back" position? ) 🤷
@Gargron it's just you. I prefer "Older" on the left.
But it's not that important anyway. Not sure it's worth changing it.
@Gargron Pawoo seems changed those position🤔
@Gargron For me older makes sense being on the left (like in books) 🤷🏽♂️
@Gargron (I don't know the whole context but IIRC it's possible to do infinite scroll with a non-js fallback..?)
(Just make the "loading more..." bar at the bottom also display Previous and Next buttons (updating them with the JS for if network drops or something), no?)
(Maybe even add the words "loading more" with JS, so it doesn't even seem like a Both?)
(Disclaimer I don't JS so like...)
@Gargron make it configurable
*ducks and runs*
So perhaps it could be determined by the language of the user or the instance, or changeable in admin settings with a user setting override, or...
Well maybe this is complicating things unnecessarily, because the text labels are very clear. 🤔
@gargron Yeah. I expected it to be on the right. But IDK if that's because I've been trained by badly designed websites to expect that or if that's actually intuitive.
@Gargron I think it's not bad if the button is labelled "next" (and maybe page buttons on the bottom)
@Gargron actually it's "previous page" if the book goes LTR. imagine a journal that you keep writing in -- you don't fill pages RTL unless your langauge is RTL.
@Gargron just label it "next page". Problem solved.
@qwazix It used to be called that, people insisted on renaming it 👀
@Gargron ah, sorry didn't know. Just put a cat emoji then :-P
@Gargron Personally, I prefer when "older" is on the left. In most western books, the "older" pages are on the left too.
@Gargron looks fine to me
@Gargron Noooooo I need it to be on the left, just like "Previous" on webcomics. When "older" is on the right I end up going around in circles.
@Gargron Heck, even within European and American comics, when characters move from left to right it means they're going forward, whereas when they go right-to-left it means going back, going against the grain or pushing back against something or someone. This is deeply ingrained in the LTR reading order.
@Reinderdijkhuis But going backwards in time on the posts is not navigating backwards. You're exploring the unexplored. You get me?
@djsundog heritage breed
@Gargron I guess I do but on an emotional, intuitive level it doesn't work for me. I do experience going to older posts primarily as going backwards in time.
@Reinderdijkhuis @Gargron Will agree here - I see social networking as microblogging, with the newest posts shown first, and older, previous posts as, well, previous. 'Back'. 'Older'. On the left. Like my WordPress blog.
But! I think it'd be cool to have something like that localized - how about flipping them for RTL languages, if that makes sense to those users, for example? :D
(yeah, more work, I know. We <3 you, @Gargron )
@Gargron That trips me up on other sites too. Might make more sense if they had up/down arrows to match the scroll direction 🤔
@Gargron As long as they are labelled 'older' and 'newer' and not 'next' and 'previous', I don't care which is where.
@Gargron that is kind of annoying, yes
@Gargron This reminds me of synaesthesia involving time. Everyone who arranges time spatially around themselves arranges it differently.
For me, the future is in front of me and slightly to the right, which makes no sense because you can't see the future, so it should be behind you, right? (The past is behind me and slightly to the left.)
So maybe you arrange time differently to other people. Perhaps it is related to how much we read paper books and stuff?
This (in my own way)
Also, having it on the left seems like it disupts the flow of the page -- I'm guessing that's because the time stamp creates a semi-invisible column
Here though, having it on the left seems OK (scroll down):
The opposite seems OK here to me, though:
I'm guessing it's because of layout, to my eyes at least. I've noticed it before, but didn't stop to question why
@Gargron I prefer older on the left (back) and newer on the right (forward).
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