Trending hashtags legit had risks of abuse. But they're only a lens over toots that are already in the FTL, over which plenty of mod tools are available, and you could even make pre-screening necessary for trending. Instead the discussion became about how nobody really wants this feature and I'm just "pulling off wings from insects for fun".

I see some kinda discourse is still going and people are eager to misinterpret anything i say, but the feature got taken out before it got into any production release and could actually harm anyone.

And I'm frustrated because i think it could have done a lot of good too and there were ways to make it work that were not heard.

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I've locked the discussion so nobody can comment on it anymore but here is where it all went down, if you want the original source: github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/

@Gargron

My favorite so far:

> I am not a magician and I cannot change the laws of physics.

@Gargron what a drama...

I just want Masto to give me more signal and less noise. I don't mind trends. They might help with "keeping up with the Mastodonians".

@Gargron gosh these debates are frankly discouraging...

@Gargron I read the thread. For me it's clear that in that thread you are the one being abused. I really don't care about the feature much, but your arguments seem far more rational than those of the other side. FWIW.

@qwazix
Especially since the ones against the feature were kinda more against you @Gargron than anything. Some of them seem to already have made their mind whatever could be told. Hell, some of them were already using a fork !

@Gargron Sorry to hear you received abuse for implementing this feature and engaging with users. Read over the thread, and while it is possible there may be valid concerns about the "trending" feature, they certainly didn't come across in that thread. For the most part, the people attacking you came across hysterical and absurd. Obviously you can develop Mastodon as you believe is best, but you came across as logical and with a genuine desire to engage with users. I know which side won me over.

@Gargron To *most* of those who raised concerns about the feature in the GitHub thread, if they wish to have any hope of winning people over to their position in future, they'd do well to pay attention to @MatejLach contribution: "If you fail to understand that your personal opinion does not represent the objective view of morality and that you do not just deserve an audience, you have to win it over, then I am afraid you will not achieve your goals and will not win anybody over." 👏

@Gargron Will just add that personally my current thoughts are that "trending" is a useful feature that will particularly help new users engage with the community. Like any feature there is of course potential for abuse, as well as some UX improvement that could likely be made, and I believe you've already stated most of these are on the roadmap in the GitHub thread.
(And finally, thanks for all your work on Mastodon! You've built something pretty incredible).

@Gargron It's a shame this didn't get implemented, trends were a lot of fun in the early Twitter days.

@Gargron
You can please some of the people some if the time but you can't please all if the people all of the time. From what I've seen in my short time here the hate haters only hate the people with whom they disagree and it's OK to hate and be vitriolic towards them. If someone gives them a hard time, outcomes the trolling and name calling. Hold your head up. You've made something good and most of us support you.

@Gargron Ugh, exactly the kind of reactions that makes you just want to give up on projects.

People sometimes really do not understand that their words have other effects than just arguing their side.

@gargron remember when you tried to introduce a feature to designate of an account was posting autonomously and a bunch of cyborgs said “thanks for erasing us”

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