I'm really frustrated because I think "toot" is cute and I've never heard anyone actually use it to mean farts because that's just not a thing where I'm from.
And I do like that I can tell someone "could you toot that" instead of "could you post that on Mastodon", there is recognition value in that.
But if that's legit going to be an obstacle to people taking Mastodon seriously, it seems impractical for me to insist on that term. 😦
If somebody is not going to try Mastodon out because of this word, they wouldn't have tried it anyway.
"Toot" is an important part of this community's identity. Somebody doesn't like it, it's their problem.
We should not cave to people with such silly issues.
Seriously, there's an elephant right below "Toot!", it's clear what's it about.
as a USAian, it's not a commonly used word for fart and honestly it is kind of a *cutesy* word for fart even when it's used as a word for fart, so I mean
I don't think there's a real problem here, I don't know who's been saying "ugh, 'toots'?! that's so gross"
I have literally seen all of three fart jokes about "toot" and two of them were me back, god, like a year ago? O_o
@Gargron not only are they arguing in bad faith, they don't even have their history straight. Federal was the civil war era term for the union, as opposed to the Confederate.
I'm not privy to how much of this kind of trash reasoning you're exposed to and fighting against, but I can understand that it's exhausting. It's ignorant people satisfied with their lot punching down and making tautaological arguments why anything that they don't like/use is inherently bad bc they don't like/use it.
Yeah, I knew about toots years ago. But so what? 🤷♂️ And federated?! May as well get hung up about “post” because of the funereal bugle call “The Last Post” (equivalent to US “Taps” - hey look , a touchscreen reference 🙄) or “bot” because... no not going there.
Seriously, these are trolls, not potential users. They wouldn’t use Mastodon even if you acceded.
Larry Niven's Law Of Fuckheads: There is no cause so noble that it doesn't attract fuckheads.
Sydney Falk's Corollary: There is no cause so ignoble it won't pull in some otherwise decent, reasonable humans.
I assume things are satire *when it is explicitly stated*, and almost never otherwise, these days.
The assumption being wrong sometimes was more important than I think we all realized.
I've seen tweets that suggest all sorts of things. Twitter's got a huge augmented bot problem, IMO; there's tons of people saying random shit on there and then people parrot it back out like bi --
OH SHIT I JUST FIGURED TWITTER OUT ENTIRELY we have to call the Audubon Society
(seriously tho: I don't think that's a remotely serious take, I think at best that's someone trying to tear at Mastodon any way they can to help "save" twitter. people go bonkers about tribal identity, always.)
@Gargron @sydneyfalk if they can’t be bothered to distinguish between “federation” and “confederacy”, or between “the Confederate States of America” and confederacies in general, they probably weren’t going to be very sympathetic to any other names or terms either.
On thing I’ve learned the hard way is that there are people out there with whom it is impossible to communicate with in any meaningful fashion.
@Gargron What? Wow!
I think this is a case of "I don't want to like mastodon and/or want to complain about something. So let me search for some point to get riled up about."
Because really, there are 1000 real and 100 fictional instances of federations... but it HAS to be the confederates...
I frequent a forum called "Pyracy" that you might enjoy. I was also reading this thread:
@Gargron i've had this opinion since i started using mastodon. i really like the idea behind the word 'toot', but in the US it will be associated with non-seriousness. maybe there's an alternative associated with mastodons - bark/grunt/trumpet. none are as cute as toot though...
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