Sorry to toot twice..wanted to see if I could reply and thread back to Mastodon from my own domain...I can't
@Gargron @kevinmarks @cwebber @aaronpk That's a bit harsh, plenty of micro.blog and WordPress users as well. I know #IndieWeb in GenPop, including folks who have never been online, it's not just the SuperMax of SSG users. I just believe the more things we do in plain html the more accessible to the public they will be
@Gargron @kevinmarks @aaronpk Reading all the work around discussion of petnames and namespaces..that just seems like so much work when all I need to do is list my online identities in my h-card or just have links on my blog. I doubt many people will mix up @cwebber the programmer and Chris Webber the ball player...
@jgmac1106 @Gargron @aaronpk @cwebber it is more of a problem than you think - I'm sure the other Kevin Marks's are fed up with me. I proposed a rel="not-me" for explicit disambiguation. My favourite example is http://kevinkelly.name/
Also, as Chris pointed out, there is malicious impersonation, as well as parodic.
My nervousness about sharing addressbooks and pet names is that my pet name for someone is unlikely to be useful to you.
the key thing is you have to show the path... it shouldn't just show up unnamespaced as tantek absolutely, it's the tantek you claim as tantek. And we know each other enough that I can believe that's the same Tantek I know.
@cwebber @jgmac1106 @Gargron @aaronpk yes, but users think pet names in their addressbook are private, and will be mortified when you get 'snookums' or 'that bore again' with attribution to them (they don't realise that facebook,linkedin, whatsapp and signal have them).
Also addressbook transitivity is a really bad idea. We built a test one when I was on google contacts and we deleted it with fire. That didn't stop buzz doing it again later and getting an FTC judgement though.
@kevinmarks @jgmac1106 @gargron @aaronpk Nope, you're missing an essential step in the interface. You have to opt-in to sharing your petnames with your contacts. You click the "share with contacts" checkbox, then it prefills the edge name you're going to suggest to your contacts. So if Alice Mcguffin has her mother labeled as "Mom" as her petname for her mother, that's obviously not as useful for others, so she changes it to "Jane Mcguffin"
@cwebber @jgmac1106 @Gargron @aaronpk if we publish rel=friend|contact|met|following etc, you can do this with a link graph, without names.
if you go back far enough twitter published these - grep this for rel="contact" https://web.archive.org/web/20070202014929id_/twitter.com/kevinmarks
@cwebber @jgmac1106 @Gargron @aaronpk they're in the facepile sidebar https://web.archive.org/web/20070202014929/twitter.com/kevinmarks
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