I wanna brainstorm this: What information would you show instantly to a new person on Mastodon, in a tutorial screen?
Here is one thing I am certain about: Showing them their full handle (with the domain part).
Screen 1: Welcome, username@domain (elephant waving a greeting)
Screen 2: Home (elephants cuddling together), arrow to Local (planet with elephant on it), arrow to Federated (galaxy)
Screen 3: Reply (elephants exchanging a speech bubble), Boost (one elephant holding a painting in front of a crowd), Favourite (elephant hugging a box)
Screen 4: Hashtag column with mouse hovering over the settings icon, then with the settings expanded mouse hovering over "pin column", then the UI with new column
Showing them that they can follow specific tags in different "boxes" (or whatever they are called)
@Gargron maybe something about timelines, it is confusing when arriving from the birb site
@Gargron I feel like instances need a better, more concise description. That's the most common point of confusion I see. I use the metaphor of them being like towns, each with its own rules.
@Gargron Explanation of timelines, of course !
@gargron How to find and choose an instance. It's the only thing that scares away people I know
@Gargron Tutorial must show the way to interact with an other users using our dialect. Words like Joseo, Discrepo, Aloe Vera... its an idea
Handle and then that they can follow people from any instance; Maybe show some accounts from different instances or generally list the biggest instances?
@Gargron a quick summary of instances and local/federated timelines (probably with pictures)
I'm voting for timelines too !
@Gargron Show them alternative frontends.I mean other webclients like Halcyon and Pinafore as well as the mobile apps.Mastodons default frontend is very confusing if you come from the birdsite (I still don't understand it lol)
@Gargron as someone who has never used twitter I didn't understand what boost / fave did, and how they were different. Everybody just explained it to me with twitter analogies.
My impulse whenever a website tries to give me a tutorial is to immediately dismiss it, so being able to re-show the tutorial would be nice.
@Gargron Needs more elephants 🐘❤️
@Gargron 🐘 👩🏻🚀🚀
@Gargron gotta have a dabbing elephant somewhere
@gargron it sounds straightforward and cute.
@Mainebot But is it complete or still missing something. The last screen feels oddly specific.
@gargron yeah I was gonna say: it's leaning into pinning hashtags kind of a lot.
Is there an FAQ/Answers/help that can be referenced? Then you can have a cute mastodon reading a book with question marks for like... Additional information.
It almost makes sense to have one in overalls and with tools signposting to settings for people to get set-up properly.
@Gargron my feedback: the words should stay, illustrations optional. the great opportunity of the onboarding widget is that it's a place where you can use words and they EXPECT words
the rest of the UI tries to be symbolic, this is your chance to use words for ppl who understand that way. i know you're trying to reduce translation load but idk
@cosine Drawings are more memorable than just words. They're also like rewards for reading rather than skipping. I feel like that's a good strategy.
@Gargron totally legit! keep the drawings then! but id opt to still have at least some words
@cosine The flat lines below are placeholders for words!
@Gargron ohhhh okay, then cool!!
then all id say is, i never even used Twitter and reply / boost / fav made total sense to me without explanation
@Gargron What happened to the federation concept from Screen #2 on. That's probably the hardest concept for people to wrap their brains around in the Fediverse. I think most people understand the direct interactions because of their use of other social media systems. Will the animations show the interaction with the rest of galaxy? Following an elephant on another planet? etc.
@Gargron What about working in a mention or example of how hashtags work? You want them used more, and I agree.
They’re also a good, flexible way of finding people to follow, which I regularly see as a complaint from new folks here.
@Gargron I love this! I feel like a CW should be featured on screen 3 though.
@chrisWhite @chartier I think that once you click on "reply" you can figure out hashtags and mentions quite quickly (i.e. a mention is pre-filled when you reply), so it's not really worth including in the tutorial. I feel like the attention is a finite resource there, so wanna stick to the most foundational concepts.
@chartier There are many 3rd party things I'd wanna include, from specific apps, to tools, to masto.host, but I think I cannot do that. The version of Mastodon might still be live years after any of those things stop being maintained.
I like it. Sounds pretty solid all together.
@Gargron I really like the idea of screen 3, but to be frank, I think most people are probably familiar with those controls (thanks to twitter exposure)
I wouldn't devote too much of the commission-funding pool there
@Gargron might be a bit confusing with globe being the icon for federated timeline in the interface
@SneakyMission Oh snap, you're right.
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