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Kibousoft is just a couple people doing web development. It's as much of a "corporation" as I am, since I am self-employed and doing web development. mastodon.cloud was struggling with an owner who had no technical experience, so the people of Kibousoft offered to take it over. It wasn't bought out.

I'm sad to see people spreading misinformation about this. One of the Kibousoft guys was co-admin of KNZK and is one of the nicest people on here.

@Gargron I had seriously thought they were being bought by, I dunno, fuck jerry or amazon or something.

@Gargron was just coming to send you a message about this lol

@anna just making sure you see this before you make final calls on defederating! i trust your judgment but i never like losing track of/contact with my tootuals

@Gargron I feel like privacy/infosec circles can be really susceptible to spreading FUD about stuff like this, which makes it even more important that people in privacy/infosec circles are able to admit they were wrong. I apologize for any FUD I boosted before I saw this.

@Gargron thanks for saying something, as you're probably aware I had different impressions of the situation

But @Gargron why do they need to buy a 50k people instance if they are just doing web development?
What's the point?
How is this not fishy?

@anna

@fiona @anna I said it wasn't bought. No money was exchanged

Ok. @Gargron
Are we soon having "Login with Facebook" all over Mastodon?
Sounds like a great idea to get people to #DeleteFacebook, right? :toot:

@anna

@cute
I can't see why one would want to be able to use their Facebook account to login to Mastodon. Isn't the whole point to move away from Facebook?
@fiona

@anna @Gargron thanks for the clarification; it helps to ease concerns greatly since outside of their own Japanese website there was next to no info about them out there for non Japanese speakers to see about them. There is "corporate" and there is this kind of corporation of necessity which is what I have experience with.

This is an example of how very large instances can be a burden to maintain but I'm glad the users are in capable hands at least 🙂

@gargron but how can be anger is not fuck capitalism??? Change bad!!

@Gargron I don't know what you expect... Mastodon attracts many people who have combative and paranoid personalities, either because they're naturally anti-social or because they've been victimized before.

It's just the nature of the thing, being a more open platform and all. That's actually my one serious complaint, a lack of accountability for disinformation. Other social networks are getting scrutiny, but that same centralization doesn't exist here.

@Gargron @cambrian_era to be honest if the handover had been done with a full press release explaining what was going to happen and why in advance followed by another explaining once it had happened and that nothing was changing; people would have had less of a knee jerk reaction and it would have felt less seedy.

No news meant it felt dodgy and people assumed the worst because they are used to being stung by corporate greed.

@carbontwelve @Gargron I mean sure I sympathize but this has been a pattern I've seen on here and it's troubling.

@cambrian_era @carbontwelve The people behind Kibousoft are Japanese and do not necessarily "in" on the Western leftist discourse.

@Gargron @cambrian_era I can sympathise with that. It’s good to see your helping clear the water. Thank you.

@Gargron this is one of those wait and see things. The well has been poisoned way too much, the feelings are understandable.

Things do not seem immediately horrifying.. at the present moment.

@Gargron Good grief, thanks for that. The Kibousoft website is suggesting otherwise, but hey, looks aren't everything.

@Gargron the announcement that someone posted was obviously written by a non-native English speaker.

It seems somewhat hostile takeover

@lufthans Yeah, they're Japanese, not native English speakers.

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