Did the European Parliament just outlaw the only Europe-made social network with #Article13?
Am I supposed to remove OEmbed and OpenGraph previews to comply with #Article11, because news sites can't just not put the OpenGraph tags on their pages, the main purpose of which is to generate previews?
@Gargron I think so.
@Gargron Do what you seem necessary, but please make the commit easily findable, I'd want to revert it.
@Gargron Run to Canada
@Sir_Boops @Gargron It's not completely over yet! There is still hope! Julia Reder tweeted that us Germans could try and get our government to vote against. Maybe another massive protest on April 6th?
@Jack_Frost it's not a EU thing at the moment as far as I know... only German federal concil started to decide about it as far as I know
Only german but you could use https://www.deepl.com/translator for example
@jr hmm that's messed up. Why does it seem lately the EU is making bad choices? They're usually the ones with common sense 🇪🇺
@Jack_Frost I'm not sure... but as I said at the moment this is only for Germany... but from Germany the step up to the EU is not far...
@Gargron "sEt uP a hIdDeN sErViCe!!1"
@Gargron Nothing. At least, nothing yet.
@Gargron Go to the Winchester, have a pint, and wait for this whole thing to blow over.
@Gargron wait for it...
btw : Doing a CMS based on ActivityPub and did a small hackathon w. @cwebber in FEB and I hope very much too we could do it again next year prior to FOSDEM. https://mastodon.social/web/statuses/101516555767587956
Feel invited already.
@Gargron @sl007 @cwebber Regarding Mastodon in particular: I would wait for how the final implementation is going to look like. The wording in the Directive ("which it organises and promotes for profit-making purposes") is different and more explicit wording from what German courts consider "commercial" websites ("geschäftsmässige Telemedien").
Regarding the Directive the general: I would fight for a reasonable implementation into local law, and, most importantly, would vote on May 26th...
@Gargron if you are small or don't have any income you don't have to filter.
@Gargron Julia has a overview on what the filter implies https://juliareda.eu/2019/01/article-13-almost-finished/
It is just a guideline .. and every country now has 2 years to interpret this regulation and convert it into their own law however they please...
After that you 'just' have to adhere to your local law. And within the EU you can freely move and live under a different interpretation.. or rent a server in a different jurisdiction..
And there will be lawsuits in-between meaning it could take >2 years to get this into local law.. or to get it overturned.
@Gargron Can you tell me what part in particular has you concerned? I just re-read it, and it certainly seems bad, but I don’t see it as catastrophic. What am I missing?
@a There is no method by which Mastodon could filter uploads against copyright violations.
@Gargron By end users to a site, or via federation? The former seems solvable; the later gets rough.
@Gargron (“Solvable” in the “best effort” sense the law requires; it’s a dumb effort in any broader sense.)
@a I don't know if posts from the federation also need to be filtered when they come in, but either way you are supposed to have "automated" filters, and if you magically had those, there would be no difference between local/remote.
Block links to all traditional news sites. Don't show previews for them. Especially the germans and french. It seems quite possible that google will do the same.
Everybody else: don't give them money. Whom? Start here:
Find out who from your country voted pro 13. Convince everybody to never vote for them again. Go to EU elections.
«Article 13's provisions target commercial web hosts which "store and give the public access to a large amount of works or other subject-matter uploaded by its users which [they] organise and promote for profit-making purposes"».
I don't think this applies to the Fediverse, really. It's more like an abstract portrait of YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc.
I just made a ctrl-c ctrl-v from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_on_Copyright_in_the_Digital_Single_Market#Article_13_/_Article_17
Directly from the directive's PDF: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/A-8-2018-0245-AM-271-271_EN.pdf
Btw, it's no longer article 11 & 13, but 15 & 17.
Well, MSoc is not 3 years old, same for every other instance, also Pleroma's, etc.
But there are more exceptions, starting from the "profit-making purposes" one, which competely removes the Fediverse's instances (that I know) from their "online content-sharing service provider" definition. You get from those exceptions the sense that this is targeted for a different size. The PDF is an interesting read.
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