Mark Zuckerberg is a piece of shit. His platform sucks ass so now that governments are investigating it he's all like, I wish it could be better but there's no laws for it, it's not my fault! Fuck off
@Gargron go off Eugen
@Gargron get his ass Eugen
@Gargron For real though! The only reason he is pushing for regulation is to stop anyone from creating the Facebook Killer by ensuring that anyone looking to enter the space is burdened by having to follow all sorts of laws and regulations that only an already established platform would be able to afford.
@Gargron hell yeah get 'im eugennnnn
@Gargron and people still use it. I more so feel bad for 3rd world countries who are stuck on using it because they have no ways of communication. texting cost money and fb is free for them... well in currency but not in terms of their data.
That's such a bad excuse too, like "Hah well, this thing is too new for people to have legislated against, but I'm gonna force them to have to clamp down on it because of my unmitigated greed and lack of foresight YOLO" like ugh.
.@Gargron exactly. He can fix it NOW, but puts the responsibility to governments. Tsk tsk.
Quite frankly I don't understand how Zuckerberg has managed to stay alive this long.
@Gargron broke: instance drama
Woke: Fediverse vs Facebook drama 💪
Silicon Valley Billionaires: There should be no laws restraining us because laws are stupid and we are smarter than either governments or voters.
Also Silicon Valley Billionaires: It's not our fault that we don't do the right thing! There aren't any laws restraining us!
@Gargron You speak my mind!
@Gargron Facebook might be the obvious 'competitive threat' to Mastodon but to the Fediverse as a whole I suspect that, in the long-term, an equally big threat, if not bigger, is Google. Elizabeth Warren's idea to dismantle them has a lot of appeal.
@Gargron imagine if this toot is specifically what kills off Facebook
@Gargron may I boost this like... forever?
But that both tells us how much of a waste of air Mark is, and how much we need regulation to step in and step up.
@codewiz @Gargron because you can, but most can't step out. Because you now need Facebook and GMail to fully participate in university, for example (a lot of professors post lecture-related material in Facebook groups; largest university in Warsaw moved to GMail for their e-mail domains, including the one used by students).
The "we can switch" is just a different version of the "market will regulate" myth. Monopolies are hard to kill, and regulation is often the only way.
In any representative democracy, electors can only choose between a few candidates, but have zero control over who sponsors them and how they'll go on voting after being elected.
Moreover, voters are strongly influenced by what they hear from the media, and that can also be bought with money.
@Shamar @xj9 @rysiek @Gargron My personal experience as an operator of several small sites with users in Italy is that regulations created in good faith to protect users tend to scare off admins with no legal experience more than they'd bother a company with a legal department.
When I registered my first .it domain, I had to fax my ID to an authority to "take responsibility for the content". How would anyone ever want to self-host a wiki with rules like this?
@polychrome @Shamar @xj9 @rysiek @Gargron After the Fidobust, the remaining sysops became paranoid about abiding the most obscure Italian laws at all costs. Some thought we had to register their BBS as a news agency, or use only "homologated" modems (certified by the then state-owned telecommunication company SIP).
Nowadays, they can opt to fulfill their legal obligation via this beautifully designed digital portal: https://alloggiatiweb.poliziadistato.it/PortaleAlloggiati/
For instance, while Firefox and Chromium compete head to head, they often adopt technologies that were developed for the other, like Skia and HarfBuzz.
GCC and Clang even share a number of developers who work on both projects.
Overreaching copyright and patent laws push companies to hurt each other rather than learning from each other.
Open standards and open source, particularly when using reciprocal licenses, levels the playfield and encourage collaboration within the industry and even across different industries.
Hopefully around here these are not controversial points?
@Shamar @xj9 @Gargron @codewiz @rysiek Something I learnt from my grandparents is that groups that appear to be competing may also be cooperating at the same time. As I understand it, much of this is about trying to get the customer base covered. We like to call this "competition".
The example they had was their work at a canning factory, where they would provide each other cans when they were low.
@rysiek Gmail scares me for precisely this reason. It's not just university schools ether, k-12 are also killing their own email servers in favor of gmail.
Server run by the main developers of the project It is not focused on any particular niche interest - everyone is welcome as long as you follow our code of conduct!