@Gargron i don't think it should be formalized. requiring external payment is fine for those use cases.
@Gargron the only issue with this is all payments are typically centralised. If you do go down this route, have you considered to incorporate the option for crypto currencies along side it? This would be useful for hidden services that use Mastodon & require donations to stay alive!
@Gargron it's the second already, should have posted it earlier
@Gargron I could see it working. I would love a similar feature as well. Perhaps giving users who support the instance a different colour name (chosen by admins) or a star on their profile.
I would use it for users who have given one time donations since i use ko-fi.
@Gargron why are they closing?
@TheKinrar It is a community policy based decision, from what they've told me
@Gargron okay, that's kind of a strange thing
@TheKinrar Yes, I do not fully understand it. At first I was told Dwango wasn't doing well financially and friends.nico was a big cost sink without contributing back to their main business. That, I can understand. But when I suggested ways to decrease their costs, they said that would not help reverse course.
@Gargron That's really sad.
I don't think I'd use it for more than a "hey this user supports dragon.style!" kind of badge but yeah, that'd be nice to have.
Bonus for Patreon integration though I do have one user who's been generous but has Issues with Patreon...
Would Mastadon care that an account is paid, or is it just that some third-party has verified the account as "special"?
Doesn't matter how or why they're considered special - they could have donated money, or they could be a member of an organisation (eg. School)
@rolaveric It's not about account status but account existence. Pay to sign up instead of free sign up.
@Gargron Yes, but would it actually be easier for small instances than just use patreon or whatever?
@Gargron it would be great to have a low friction way to transfer money on mastodon, whether that is to tip the admin or buy something from another person…obviously this would involve integrating with a proprietary processor 😔
Curious to see how that will affect moderation
@Gargron I think it’s a good idea but I feel like there might be a lot to it. Would it support one-off payments to register, ongoing subscriptions, or both? Could you mix free and paid accounts and have paid accounts highlighted somehow?
@Gargron Like I said, what I strongly believe would have helped is having full account #migration support. Everyone on friends.nico will be losing their existing posts and activity forever, as they can download them but can't upload them to another server. If it was possible to implement a mechanism for syncing posts in between linked accounts, most users would have likely felt no difference.
@Gargron If it helps Mastodon survive, I think is a neat idea. I don't know if an associated patreon would be the best course of action, but sounds the most frictionless way
@Gargron it depends on what paid accounts can do but sounds good for tiny instance admins
@zatta No, not like a special type of account. Pay-to-sign-up
@Gargron I see
@Gargron I think so, yes! The instances could also make it optional and show an "instance supporter" icon in those user's profiles, for example. This could really help with small instances.
@Gargron maybe a generic “signup authorisation” API would be useful? Then admins could integrate it with whatever payment or subscription method they choose.
@Gargron I have been considering adding supporter badges on profiles for our Patreon members. I was just going to do this on our own fork, but would be nice to see something like this upstream
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