I disagree with Purism's hands-off moderation approach and I have urged them to re-consider their stance.
@Gargron Narrator: They won't.
@Gargron Will you be blocking their instances from mastodon.social?
@jack If the volume of bannable users from librem.one will become unbearable to handle on an individual basis, then a block will be introduced. For now it's a hypothetical.
listen, I don't think you're right about a lot of shit but
classy move here, honestly
good on you
Thank you for this.
@Gargron Thank you for your support :) I'm giving Librem One a few months because I like the idea behind it, but I'm hoping they quickly improve how Social is handled.
@Gargron They have a very US-centric view on this, and most people who do have a hard time understanding arguments that are more like the European view.
@Gargron the name "Purism" seems ominous
Who wants @Gargron to ban Librem.one?
since texts for each choice must be super short here is option 3:
only if "the volume of bannable users from librem.one will become unbearable"
@Gargron isn't having instance with "hands-off" moderation a feature of Mastodon? If everyone get pissed off by the mere eventuality that they might read something that will offend them, why don't everyone stick with Twitter then? Everyday on Mastodon I read statuses that annoy me and I don't agree with, I got trolled from time to time, but I just mute/block them and I will be pissed off if those users were kicked out because of their opinions (except targeted harassment and doxxing of course)
@a @Gargron if they have too much trolls over there other instances will blacklist them, and I think it's not in their best interest either so they might want to tighten things a little before that. My point is that they took a clear and principled stance about moderation (for what I've seen at least), it might not work as intended but I don't think other people should try to force them to explicitly ban "bigotry", "hate speech" or whatever they don't agree with, before anything even occurred
@Sosthene @Gargron Why? What is the logic here? “I don’t want you to use my platform to incite hatred, but I’m going to wait until you do so before saying anything about it”? It’s not like we’re talking about unprecedented things here; how these platforms get abused is mostly predictable at this point.
@a @Gargron "hands-off moderation" != "use my platform to incite hatred". Did they explicitly stated that they want to promote hate? Sorry I missed that. If not then you're just putting words in their mouth. @Gargron and others made their point pretty clear I think, we'll see how they handle that and they are responsible for it
@Gargron Some background that is somewhat oblique but may be helpful: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/06/technology/europe-tech-censorship.html
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