@Gargron Thank you. t&fb getting more and more oppressive. People will always be driven awaym because some have very little tolerance for oppression. YOu already know all this, but thank you for taking a hard line against nazis.
@Gargron I love u
We need a mastodon equivalent of YouTube
@SirTB What about PeerTube?
@monkeyless does it have a great community and anti-nazi policies like here
@SirTB comunity is small and slow growing... did't see any nazis there... but i think it's because the project itself is very small=/
@monkeyless we need to kickstart it!
@SirTB we do! but how?
@Gargron yeah, we don't need nazis here
@Gargron Thank you!
@Gargron Language note: perhaps "free from white supremacy, anti-semitism and transphobia of other platforms" would read better as "free from the white supremacy, anti-semitism and transphobia of other platforms". Including the definite article seems more idiomatic.
@Gargron I think what you have is better than "no nazis" since it makes a genuine tangible promise to protect people.
This is better than just spreading general hate in the direction of anyone vaguely right wing, which seems to be what many people are moving towards 😤
@Gargron this is great Eugen thank you so much! 👍
@Gargron hell yeah! fuck nazis
This is the right approach. You have to be proactive. I love Mastodon for its openness and free speech, but there are, of course limits to these freedoms.
@Gargron Wouldn't "supremacy" be a better choice of words than "white supremacy"? Wouldn't that encompass all kinds of supremacy?
@Gargron youre cool, eugen
@Gargron no nazis
What you gonna hide next in you "Free and Open Source" software? We already saw the result of banning those kind of things until that got out of control. Treat me of Nazis because I don't agree with you you know... Society is fucked up and the only few people in power capable to have an impact choose to comply to the majority who live in a fictional world. I'm disappointed.
@gargron to me something like this would be better 'Active moderation against all forms of online harassment and abuse - we want users of this network to be able to talk online without the fear of being harassed or abused by others, as happens on other networks. Specifically we take a definite stand against speech that is racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic or anti semitic, as this is incompatible with the fundamental rights of people in these groups.'
@gargron I.e. put the general principle before the specific examples. To me the primary thing that is important is protecting people from abuse, but then it needs to be made clear that speech that attacks or marginalises whole groups of people will not be allowed because it is incompatible with that idea, and with the rights of people in those groups to express themselves online.
@gargron another way to put the second sentence might be 'Specifically we take a definite stand against hate speech directed against people on the basis of their race, gender, sexual orientation or religious beliefs, as this is incompatible with the fundamental rights of people targeted in this way.'
@gargron you could add '... including their rights to express themselves freely online'. I.e. spell out the point that to claim free speech rights for hate speech is contradictory and hypocritical.
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