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Yeah I'm not sure about that takeaway, Vice. The biggest node on the Mastodon network is actually my ass

@cambrian_era
Vice is trash.

I've had to kick their reporters out of IRC for literally trying to incite shit.
@Gargron

@Gargron You should contact them and set the record straight.

@gargron call them out, it's bullshit and if they didn't even try talking to you, poor journalism.

@Mainebot They reached out for a general comment, and they're quoting our response in the article, but they never asked us to assess whether Gab is actually the biggest node, or how meaningful it is vs. active user numbers

@gargron then clarify that point with them, because its disingenuous reporting.

@Mainebot
It's vice. Be happy they took a break from doing hard drugs and "reporting" about it.
@Gargron

@Gargron well, another shitty article, another journey of PR crisis management

@Gargron also like pretty sure bot inflated and alts or dead accounts but hey, big numbers!!1

@Gargron ah, being "technically correct, from a certain point of view".... the best kind of correct

@Gargron @kaniini Well looks like the same point made about Pleroma now has to be made about Mastodon.

The users of the software does not equal the software itself or its creators.

People of the fediverse, hear my simple appeal to logic. Lots of bad actors use Apache and NGINX, two very popular web service packages. Does that mean its developers are nazis, and anyone who uses these web daemons are nazi supporters?

Bad actors are always going to use good software.

@Gargron @kaniini Also related: Bad actors will also usually steal good software, and generally don't give two shits about its 'license'.

@Gargron Related: Vice is just an internet tabloid

@alynna 🎼 Hey Bon, was #Vice the publisher who gave us the tour guide that used the name Japanese Formosa instead of #Taiwan? 🦄

@efi did vice really take gab's falsified numbers at face value???

@Gargron brb making an instance that reports the current world population as its member count

@ben @gargron

brb making an instance that keeps a running total of every virtual particle in the visible universe as its member count

@Gargron tbh, just leave it. Hardly anyone cares about what Vice says nowadays. The company is going down anyway.

@Gargron Maybe we should strongly discourage running services that encouraging comparing Mastodon instances on the basis of size? After all, I think most folks come here looking for community, and a big instance is not going to provide that.

Maybe even remove the API from Masto that allows getting user count.

@Gargron A reverse of the norm. Usually it's PORN that takes over a new technology 😉

@Gargron Next time they ask you for comment, just take a deep breath and be like:

"Hey. Can we get real here? You work for VICE. Are you okay, honey????"

@Gargron The writer of the article is Ben Makuch, a national security reporter and the host of Cyberwar. The "Nazi vs Twitter" paradigm is either dying down or people are desensitized and they're just trying to rekindle old controversy because it's cheaper to do than actual [new]s reporting. Vice has investors from FOX and other large networks. Networks like Vice also utilize Twitter and Reddit to promote and if people are leaving Twitter or Mastodon, that's a big $$$ problem for them.

@Gargron it's almost as if vice is a bullshit outlet for news that's full of really bad takes and misinformation for the sake of riling people up

@Gargron I wonder why /api/v1/instance/peers and /api/v1/instance/activity are blank... It can't be because they don't want someone to see that all the numbers are fake, can it?

@Gargron I really want to see "The biggest node on the Mastodon network is actually my ass" quoted on, like, Gizmodo and Ars Technica. Can we make this happen?

@Gargron I'm gonna get in with the memes while the getting's still good:

* The biggest node on Mastodon is the friends we made along the way
* jiggest node (jean biggest node)
* viral: biggest node on Mastodon / spiral: biggest oat on Mastodon

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@Gargron Considering standards of tech reporting, this article is actually has some accuracy efforts to it. I'd have expected then to say all of Mastodon is Nazis or Mastodon is a spin-off of Gab.

@Frinkeldoodle Sounds like someone's been watching some Jacksfilms... :)

@whiskeysailor @ben @Frinkeldoodle @gargron I clicked on this expecting to read about clown cars and now I'm sad that there is no such article :blobsad:

@Gargron I'm glad they're in the mastodon network and not the fediverse. :blobthumbsup:

@Gargron Vice has been a pro-establishment trash pile for quite a time now, this feels totally a deliberate strategy to discredit ''alternatives'' and to pile in ''the left'' together with the right.

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