Imma be honest with you chief regardless of the fact that I think mastodon.social *ought* to stay open for reasons I outlined on our official blog I am feeling psychologically overwhelmed by the influx of new people and worried if my architecture will be able to handle it... It's been put to the test by a fair number of overlapping user migrations recently...
All I can do is kindly ask that if you are inviting people to Mastodon on other social media, Telegram groups or whatever else, please please use the joinmastodon.org page instead of linking to mastodon.social specifically. Thank you
@Gargron Hi! I put your advice at Twitter, translated into Castilian language (AKA Spanish) please be patient, thanks in advance!
@Gargron Can you please explain why it's better to use the "join" page instead of mastodon.social? In Venezuela we know about Mastodon because people from the "open source world" are inviting to use this media in response to the Twitter censorship.
@douglasrangel Because joinmastodon.org links to many many different Mastodon servers (that aren't mastodon.social). So on one hand people can find a server that's thematically or regionally closer to them, and on the other the growth is distributed among different servers without overloading a single one
Perhaps rather than stopping people from signing up, an aggressive campaign to get existing members to "graduate" from dot social and move on to other servers, now that they've got a feel for the whole federation concept?
I'm unfortunately not sure what that would look like, but it at least would avoid the UX delay you cite in another reply. There must be people with experience that could be leveraged in that direction.
It's very much my own trajectory. I started on dot social since that's where the links were pointing at the time (this was before some of the really big waves came along), and there developed a culture of encouraging people to spread out over other instances once you got your sea legs, so to speak.
I tried out a handful, and ended up liking wandering-shop, so I migrated at that point.
I found the process really simple. Just make a new account at the other instance to check it out and see if you like the place, then go into your dot social settings and archive all your stuff. You can import it all into your new account and there's a redirect setting that sends people over there from your current profile.
You'll probably need to rebuild your followers to some degree, but a lot of what you've got now are probably inactive or just followbacks anyway.
@Gargron Excuse me gentleman, I am not very familiar with this website ... I only did it to see if I could start conversations with Venezuelans ... I did not have the remote idea that you are the one who had to follow him ... I do not even know how I will do it , but if he takes me out of his followers it would be excellent for me
I think it doesn't make sense to do that. If I'm. Interested in tech, so I would sign up in fosstodon. It's better centralize
@Gargron I understand that you don’t want to censor Mastadont strictly? For example, take me and my friends. We are used to a certain way of communicating. On the other hand, it may seem that we are quarreling with each other or rude to each other, but this is absolutely not so. These are just each other's friendly jokes. We like it, laugh at ourselves and our friends. And, sometimes, we don’t choose an expression. But this doesn’t mean anything bad at all)
Scaling a site to millions users takes a lot of hard work, and Mastodon was designed from the start to spread the hosting costs and the workload across thousands of federated instances, each with separate admins.
For example, I chose mstdn.io, which is hosted in France by a student of software engineering (meanwhile, he has become a professional 👏).
I feel I fell into [said group]/ I'm new and signed up and I'm on Mastodon Social the same. I don't know how use this the way you're expecting me to. Like I said, I just signed up. Checking out the people before I dive in.. I have followed a couple of people /but how to use [instances?] I don't know, So here I am.... So what do I do to help with this from my point? Thanks.
I guess @Gargron's request says it all: if you're inviting your friends to Mastodon, please send them to https://joinmastodon.org where they can choose an instance that's thematically or geographically closer to them instead of just going to mastodon.social.
In case you realize that the instance you picked wasn't a great match for you, you can simply create another account somewhere else and migrate there.
Decentralization is a core value of this community, because it shifts control from a single platform owner to its users, who are free to vote with their feet, or even start a new instance (which takes time and money, but is still within reach of a skilled student).
@Gargron humble apologies I joined social (a little while ago), I live in japan and post mostly in japanese, are you aware of a japanese language server I can point people to?
@Gargron An immediate fix would be if the mastodon.social sign up page redirected to joinmastodon.org no?
Source code or just make the server do it.
@gemlog Well registration is open right now, so this is what I'm getting from the intention of the message. But it is just my assumption.
@trevdev It just seems unlikely that a plea on mastodon to NOT use mastodon.social will be effective at all. Merely a 'good intention' at best.
If the problem is too many ppl on mastodon.social then redirect to the choices - and I assume mastodon.social itself is one of the choices on offer anyhow, if someone really, really wanted that instance.
I'm going for a walk downtown - it's sunny, clear and cold, which is just about my favourite time of year! :-)
@gemlog The problem that I've found with shutting off registration in general is that it creates more work for whomever is signing up, which immediately drops their chances of adopting.
Maybe a first-time cookie to test if they've ever been there before that will prompt a feature to visit joinmastodon.org instead is in order?
It is also my favorite time of year. Not too hot for me and the dog, not too cold either.
@trevdev Redirecting the menu item for join causes no more work for the person signing up. I was advocating for that - not turning off registrations per se. They can still do it from joinmastodon.
Besides, they are better served by beginning to understand the differences with twit and all the micro-communities and SIGs there are in the fediverse.
@trevdev I was too hot yesterday, so I ditched another layer, but this jumper has to go too now - until next winter.
So nice out! The only thing better would be if the farm would start up again and I was being paid to be out in it! :-)
@Gargron, CEO de @Mastodon, RECOMIENDA que si estamos invitando personas a esta red social, debemos decirle que utilicen la instancia /servidor o federación joinmastodon.org en lugar de vincular específicamente a mastodon.social
Correccion. Esta pidiendo que busquen otra instancia de la lista que hay en joinmastodon.org
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@rtfm @Gargron @Mastodon @ANDR3Z77 @BELVIER63 @CriseidaPsuv @CarlosAcevedo2030 @dulceblanco @ELGUARO197 @ERASTRIA @fotoecocultura @Guerrilla_2019 @Hojillera @irr644 @joan_coreographer @keir66 @LaReina_rev1 @miguelitomatos @neurinsc @Ovidio1209 @PatriotaFiel @SoySergioM que bueno que rectificas, aplaudimos esa actitud, y te reiteremos que el otro mensaje NO ES FALSO, existe, como te señalamos, parece de un tercero para él, por la forma de la redacción.
@Gargron @Mastodon @ANDR3Z77 @BELVIER63 @CriseidaPsuv @CarlosAcevedo2030 @dulceblanco @ELGUARO197 @ERASTRIA @fotoecocultura @Guerrilla_2019 @Hojillera @irr644 @joan_coreographer @keir66 @LaReina_rev1 @miguelitomatos @neurinsc @Ovidio1209 @PatriotaFiel @SoySergioM @rtfm ese es el mensaje al que haces referencia, no quiere decir que el otro sea falso, puedes verificar la publicación de @Gargron, la que inicia con: "Imma be honest..."
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