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Hashtags in bio approach was not the most effective, was it now

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I can summarize the issues it had as follows:

- Difficult to discover that it was a thing you could do (missing UI hints)

- Cost of adding "unnecessary" hashtags into bio text (some don't want to do it)

- Free-form input means there's multiple hashtags for the same thing (makes browsing more frustrating)

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@Gargron I liked it honesly, but when the directory was redesigned it became hard to use them.

@Gargron

Some kind of topic system is really useful, at least as an option?

Hashtags seemed ok to me?

@FediFollows agree with you here. Bio-Hashtags as a topic system is great and flexible.

It can also go beyond topics. You could for example tag yourself with your city and find local people that way.

@Gargron Do you know a % of those who used hashtags vs those who didn't?

I tried doing a poll (small) and in my case most didn't bother. Curious as to what you've been seeing.

@carrabelloy @Gargron

Suggestion:

Give the option to use proper metadata, such as Dublin Core.

@Gargron the main problem that Mastodon keeps ignoring is that most people don't want to follow random people they've never known. They want to find whoever they already know.

Profile directory is sure nice to have, but it doesn't answer the question "which of my friends are on fediverse and where".

@grishka @Gargron A few months ago I did a poll where I asked people how many of their circles here they knew in person, and more than 1/3 knew 0 of their followers and followees in person. Those who knew a majority or all was a handful.

I didn't really use Twitter much but there to I feel like for most people the majority of their networks are strangers. Tho that's an outsider observation, so don't quote me on that.

@cadadr @Gargron yeah, that's what I meant — that's because there is no way to find people you know besides asking them what their usernames are. So, naturally, they follow whoever they're able to find. And so that's the result you get.

For me, it's always been the exact opposite. On any social media platform (except Mastodon!) the majority of my connections is with people I know in person. So I'm naturally perplexed that nothing in the fediverse is built around this. Will fix with .

@Gargron Es gibt noch ein Problem mit Hashtags, das an der Föderationsstruktur liegt. Meine Instanz findet # nicht, obwohl auf einer anderen Instanz zweifelsfrei vorhanden. Evtl. hilft eine Konstruktion der Art #Beispiel@instanz.domain bei der Suche. Dadurch sollte meine Instanz sich instanz.domain merken und zukünftig auch andere # dort (mit-)suchen. Oder # müßten großzügiger verteilt werden. Wenn ich nichts/wenig per # finde, benutze ich # auch nicht selber. Henne/Ei Problem.

@Gargron How about using emoji? For example, if a profile likes cats, display 🐈 and categorize those profiles. In the case of emoji, there may not be enough categories, but I think it looks interesting. By the way, I think emoji hashtags may be considered.

@k_taka @Gargron As far as I know the emoji are instance dependend. Not all instances have the same set of emoji. That makes them imho useless as searchcriteria.

@Gargron I wish I could sort by stats like most boosted users, most favorites, most followers, most toot frequency

@JackMeinoff @Gargron I agree that some stats could be useful as criteria. A lot of followers might be a sign for relevance. Too many toots may flood the personal timeline.

@Gargron Perhaps by language?

I found hashtaging yourself useful and it's an interesting feature with lots of potential.

It probably shouldn't be the main thing for a profile directory because of the issues you mention, but it could be a separate thing. Bio hashtags are like flexible groups you can follow.

@mhoye Elaborate please. Like times the person used that hashtag?

@Gargron Firefox uses the combination of frequency of use and recency of use to sort history during searches, it works really well. developer.mozilla.org/en-US/do

@mhoye I don’t see the connection to categorization

The argument is that you don't need to bother don't bother with categorizing if you can make searching effective enough.

@Gargron Wie soll das Profilverzeichnis kategorisiert werden? Ich habe als Neuling nicht den Zweck von Hashtags im Profil verstanden und darum darauf verzichtet. Eine bessere, ausführlichere Erklärung von Sinn und Zweck unter Einstellungen -> Profil -> Empfohlene Hashtags könnte helfen die Nutzer zur Eintragung zu bewegen. Dazu gehört ein Hinweis, wie man in der Oberfläche nach den dort eingetragenen # sucht und nach der Eintragung, bei einem Test, auch sich selbst sogleich findet.

@Gargron I do like Bio hashtags, but they should show up in the search too.

Also any topic should be found, or name. Someone may not remember the full username so if you type in for example "Jay" it should show all users with Jay in their Username.

THANK YOU for spending so much time and always trying to make this better for us.

@Gargron

Allow users to add tags to their accounts in 'Preferences'. Do not make it mandatory. Opt in only.

Allow users to search the profile directory based on tags.

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