"France bans citizens from filming and identifying violent police officers"
That's fucked up
@Gargron Wow, we're 18 years into it here in Turkey and yet this is way too creative even for Erdogan.
@Jakobiner @Gargron IDK, it's the same struggle the world over. People trying to make it and people trying to take it. From the outside Europe, whatever it might be, is seen to be this serene, civilised and rich place, but from the inside it's just like everywhere else.
The one good thing to come out of pandemic, and Trump et al. was to show to the rest of the world that yeah it's a shitshow everywhere indeed, with varying amounts of money mixed with the shit.
also difficult to enforce. you're allowed to film cops doing ordinary patrol things, but as soon as they start hitting someone you're supposed to stop? as if you couldn't tell they were about to start? so we should stop recording even before that? this is some fucked up variation of Zeno's paradox.
@Gargron There’s kind of a libertarian argument for defunding the police and defunding the government as a whole, but deregulating it like this kind of gets us into the ballpark of getting those guillotines back into action.
@Gargron I am sad for you.
In Hong Kong, cops hide their identity by consealling their face and ID number or closing down streets from "unlicensed reporters".
But they still want to keep the appearance of upholding free of speech and police accountability. And most of the time, we still get footages of their brutality.
Disallowing people in identifying police is fucked up. Let's hope government elsewhere don't follow this practice.
Yes but, no, they haven't. Not yet at least.
"One bill, which passed an initial hurdle in the lower house of Parliament, the National Assembly, on Tuesday, restricts the public filming of the police"
"France backtracks on security law after police brutality incidents
Proposed legislation is unpopular among liberal elements, on the left and in the media"
@Gargron France government wants to ban "fake journalists" from taking pictures in demonstration and that "true journalists" ask permission to the police, before a demonstration, to take pictures.
@Gargron Well, that's not YET fucked up as the lew has to go to the Senat before, but freaking yes. We'll fight !
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