No, it's called #censorship and this is #communism.
#mastodon developers have been empowered admins to use censorship to ban instances. This is not so far from #google, #twitter etc.
“Our censorship is good, but their censorship is bad.”
This is #hypocrisy level 100.
p.s. Please do not teach me about communism. I know it from autopsy.
@Dashtop @striker @Gargron @matrix @fdroidorg F-Droid is only a partial solution to the bigger issue. It is good, but not enough - for starters, it is for FOSS apps only, AFAIK. Open platform would also require generic hardware and lack of any vendor-locking on part of OS.
@vazub @striker @Gargron @matrix @fdroidorg open hardware needs to be approached fundamentally differently from software. It needs to have a proper plan and execution by professionals. It can't just be made by anyone interested like in software where everything happens organically. That's why I feel like there's not much open hardware.
@Dashtop @striker @Gargron @matrix @fdroidorg It is not necessarily about “open” hardware per se, more about preventing vendor lock-in for hardware/software combination.
@vazub @striker @Gargron @matrix @fdroidorg well I would say normal PC hardware is open in that sense. And pinephone officially sponsored 5 OS teams. So yeah, in that case it's pretty open(Linux on Mac m1 :p)
@Gargron @matrix @SubwayTooter
Here is an article which is about Google tried to ban Subway Tooter.
About deletion warning from Play store - Subway Tooter blog http://subwaytooter.hatenadiary.jp/entry/2020/09/01/161533
@striker
#newpipe has released their own @fdroidorg repo
@ekaitz_zarraga @Gargron @matrix @piggo
@striker @ekaitz_zarraga @Gargron @matrix @fdroidorg @Azt3c @piggo it's a paradox. We need to support older Android devices but supporting them affects the security.
And crashes are reported if you say yes not by default
https://newpipe.net/FAQ/tutorials/install-add-fdroid-repo/ -> To stay up to date.
@Gargron @matrix I guess Amazon/Google/Apple are trying to set example by banning decentralized services just like how publishing companies tried to set example by punishing #aaronswartz.
@Gargron@mastodon.social I never root for matrix but this is an outrage! It's absolutely inappropriate! @matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
Interesting point. Don't know gab so well. Well don't know US law but where I live it is illegal to incite to violence and oppression against minorities.
Do you think platforms should allow that? Mastodon certainly doesn't, nor matrix.
It is problematic though when more vague terms come into law. Such as fake news or hate speech. This can abused to create an oppressive censorship climate. The line is becoming thinner.
@jcast @Gargron @matrix I use Gab and I haven't seen evidence of inciting violence. I don't look for it either. I approve of freedom of speech except when it is coordinating violence against others. When someone says something negative towards you or others it shouldn't all be looked at as hate. They are entitled to have their opinion even though you or I think it's wrong. I am pretty sure it is illegal to incite violence in most US states.
@silibot @Gargron @matrix
@fdroidorg
So you think #fdroid was just attempting to get heat away from them by banning Gab?
Or Gab publicly refused to moderate content?
Anyway I think a distinction should be made here. Gab is a centralized platform so not truly free (although you could fork it and host it yourself).
Based on EFF's opinion here the range of forbidden speech is much narrower under the US law (in theory at least) than most mods allow, and some other nations allow.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/01/twitter-and-interoperability-some-thoughts-peanut-gallery
@Gargron Tumblr is on the Play Store and it's full of porn, to the face of their dumb censor AI and Big G
@ranx To be fair Tumblr literally banned porn in response to being threatened off the Play Store
@Gargron well... i'm not complaining but they're doing it wrong and what is the Play Store doing about it? 🤷♂️
#FluffyChat use the same thing and is on
@Gargron @matrix
How much as this got to do with the fact, they can't gain money from those of us who use element / matrix / irc etc. ? I suspect this is the real reason.