What if we had an "untrusted" notifications tab for interactions from unfamiliar users...
@Gargron Doesn't that make too many tabs? Maybe a particular color instead?
Don't want to have 10 tabs in mastoson.
@sexybenfranklin @touk @Gargron i think it should be on by default (like notifs from boosts, faves, etc) but in the same drop down. just call it "show unfamiliar users" it's an interesting idea. overall i don't think it's something i would use as there really isn't spam on my instance and my weird replies are more amusing to me than anything else
@Gargron port over the notification options from the ios app (everyone / follows / followers / mutuals / no one)? or maybe just collapse it into two categories, "all" and "in your network" (which includes people who follow you or you follow, i guess?)
@trwnh I love that iOS app setting but if we're talking about spam, it's not a solution. I'm sure a lot of people won't want to set it to "anyone I follow" only and then you're on square one.
@seven Could work for rogue accounts in peaceful servers. That could be majority of cases. And for rogue servers there is some medicine already.
@Gargron maybe something like filtering out a notification if it contains a link and no one follows that user locally? would at least stop link-spam
although idk i personally still think a widespread culture of human-reviewed signups is the best safeguard against spam -- anything beyond that is plugging leaky holes...
@Gargron i think i've said before that spam is a cost issue and that low social cost is easier to impose than high technical cost
@trwnh Any sign-up delay causes dramatic drop-off in onboarding. You might get rid of spammers but you'll also get rid of the majority of legitimate people trying the platform out.
@Gargron Maybe as an opt-in feature. I'd guess that people that are new to mastodon would be confused by that feature if it'd be active by default + not everyone needs it.
@Gargron If you wanted to break notifications off into trusted and untrusted, perhaps just have an icon next to them or something. At least for me, I don't get enough interactions on my posts to warrant having two separate notifications tabs, it would just add unnecessary complexity to the interface.
I guess it also depends on how a user is identified as being "trusted". Is that people you follow? People from trusted Mastodon instances?
Making the feature optional/toggle-able would be nice.
@Gargron I am in favor of it, can you tell us more? "unknown" rather than "untrustworthy"/ what do you think?
@Gargron So ...
... I can see the sense.
I'm notafan of the name. "Unfamiliar" is more accurate, but wordy. "Strangers" seems too overloaded. "Public" or something like that, maybe. I'm thinking "vox pop" though that's also not right.
But I'll ask you "why?"
@Gargron or at least a filter a user could enable in the settings: "Do not show notifications about interactions with unknown users".
I know this is a sore point for a lot of people and responses from unknowns (even if linked through mutuals) wrankles a lot of people. I see that as an expected side effect of discussing in public (and wish Mastodon and other social platforms had better ways of matching expectations). Many don't.
I'm not sure that further hiding the fact that discussions are public and global ... is the Right Thing to do.
@gargron I would love this along with the ability to "always trust" posts from a given instance, so that new users don't necessarily have to overcome being untrusted
@Aleums @Gargron I guess it's tricky since this site is so unique to each person. What is the threshold of interactions then? I like your idea of certain instances being already considered trusted. I just wouldn't want to miss a friendly notification just because I was yet to interact with that person.
@Gargron if this is about spam then maybe the server can do some threshold flood check for duplicate content
@Gargron though concept of untrusted is interesting: mute notifications by default if ... conditions()
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