@impiaaa I thought this was a joke post
@Gargron and I was serious about this part. I intentionally wrote it as a joke. If you want to make a point, make it comedy. That way people pay attention. It's why satire works.
@impiaaa Do you believe Mastodon was better when:
a) it was all-public
b) it had the extra "unlisted" option that was account-wide
c) it had the extra "unlisted" option granular for posts
d) it had the extra "unlisted" and "private" options granular for posts but private posts didnt leave your server
e) i am tired of making this list
@impiaaa tldr the current system has been a journey and every change was wanted and demanded (sometimes quite aggressively). i think the most confusing artifact is the "unlisted" option but i cant say it doesnt have a use. if i removed it people would be upset, i am sure
@impiaaa and here is the documented matrix: https://mastodon.social/media/t3KPzBNOPBuELLxrgrU
@Gargron "public" does not post to public timelines if it is a reply (unless it is a self-reply with nobody else in the conversation)
@impiaaa That is absolutely not an effect of the status privacy, but the fact that some public timelines have additional filters added for readability. Such as not showing reblogs because it'd be a lot of duplicate content. I concede that this makes the unlisted option useless for replies in practice, but Mastodon's default public timeline filters are not everything. Forks or other platforms may choose different content curation strats.
@Gargron Ah, I did not know that public timelines are simply filtered of that.
@Gargron "of that"? Not sure what autocorrect was going for there
@impiaaa I just realized I used absolutely twice in a row in both toots. Sorry about that.
@Gargron Sorry, sorry, I'm not trying to start anything. I know the rationale behind many of these options and issues. I just wish they were either more consistent, better documented, or somehow more obvious. I'm glad that, as a Twitter alternative, someone can mostly just sign up and get going and not worry about it.
@impiaaa There absolutely is a consistency in it. Consider these elements:
- Mention of someone
- Follow relation
- Local/federated/hashtag timelines = public timelines, i.e. not-home-or-profile-timelines
A direct post goes out only to mentions. A private post is a level above: mentions AND followers. Unlisted is a level above: mentions AND followers AND your profile. Public is a level above: mentions AND followers AND your profile AND public timelines.
@Gargron That's where they get ya, ain't it