@Irick Me too! I'm wondering what can be so difficult…

@Gargron

@Sylvhem @Irick You can check the discord for some of the issues...

@Gargron (yes please!!)

@Gargron (idk if you've been following the issue so I'll just link it~ https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/issues/4452)

@Gargron Oh no

Think of the orange website comments that would allow - "Masoton < Twitter because they even used their emojis"

@elomatreb There aren't that many emoji packs, and EmojiOne is no longer free. Even Discord uses Twemoji. So I wouldn't worry about that. But switching the packs is bloody impossible

@Gargron Good points, sorry

@Gargron and then threemoji ?

@Gargron I feel like a lot of Masto culture and lore is tied to the current emoji set. Seems like a shame to switch to Twitter's

@nolan That doesn't ring true to me..? I have not noticed any culture tied directly to EmojiOne..?

@gargron @nolan https://github.com/googlei18n/noto-emoji ?

@cwebber @nolan those aren't even the cute blob ones tho

@gargron @nolan that's because Google's team abandoned the cute blob ones in favor of "let's do what Apple is doing" :<

@nolan @gargron sad move tbh https://medium.com/google-design/redesigning-android-emoji-cb22e3b51cc6

@gargron @nolan I mean they look pretty good but they aren't those super cute blobs

@cwebber @Gargron @nolan the blobs were so much better.

@brennen @cwebber @Gargron @nolan the blobs are still in the repo, you just have to rollback to a proper commit
of course it means to new emoji. I'd love it if some artist forked it

@nolan @Gargron @cwebber @brennen *it means no new emoji

@cwebber @Gargron @nolan

Agreed, the blob had so much character !

@cwebber @Gargron Not bad, but it's still no 🍍 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/googlei18n/noto-emoji/master/png/128/emoji_u1f34d.png

@Gargron I dunno, it gives Mastodon a certain charm to me. I'd never seen EmojiOne before, so it made Mastodon look unique. Little things add up to an overall impression.

@Gargron Whatever 🍍 looks like in Twemoji, it just wouldn't feel the same

@nolan it's almost identical https://discordapp.com/assets/dc54ec2f7d2779b33e708fdb305baeea.svg

@Gargron Oh nice, it is tilted. The tilt is crucial.

@nolan @Gargron Yeah, but it's titled a bit less http://twitter.github.io/twemoji/2/test/preview.html

@saper @Gargron You're right. Apparently Mozilla tilts their pineapples more closely to ours: https://emojipedia.org/pineapple/ https://toot.cafe/media/O8cq0mWjEuk1WjZx8eg

@Gargron @saper If we switch to Twemoji, I propose adding a CSS transform: rotate(-20deg) to all 🍍s to correct the discrepancy.

@nolan @maloki @Gargron @saper I propose making the pineapples constantly spin.

@nolan That's interesting. But EmojiOne is no longer being updated - EmojiOne 3 does not distribute SVGs, which is what we use to display the emojos. Besides that practical limitation (they give PNG only), a lot of Masto folks do not like their new license, which isn't free. So are we gonna be stuck with an old emoji set?

@gargron @nolan at least you're not using iOS emoji like telegram

*shudders*

@Gargron @nolan Also, Twemoji has the most recent emojos, including the Single Raised Eyebrow/“Colbert” emojo and what I like to call the “cuss face”. Masto’s current emojo set lacks those.

@Gargron @nolan is anyone married enough to "Masto's own emoji set!" for a Kickstarter? Probably not.

@egypturnash @Gargron @nolan i would rather throw money at @dzuk for the mutant standard emoji set to be the new thing to use, but that probably won't happen in time

@dzuk @nolan @Gargron @egypturnash or really anyone who has a good project for these things :)

@KitRedgrave @dzuk @nolan @gargron @egypturnash there's also the google emoji, which does distribute SVGs and is under the SIL Open Font license

@KitRedgrave @egypturnash @Gargron @nolan I’d understand if others want to use something with a more permissive license but I think there should be the ability to have alternative emoji sets ;)

@dzuk @KitRedgrave @egypturnash @Gargron The issue is they don't even provide SVGs unless you pay: https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/issues/4452#issuecomment-331272428

@nolan @KitRedgrave @egypturnash @Gargron I was talking about my set (I allow SVG use but the license is CC-BY-NC-SA).

@KitRedgrave @Gargron @nolan oh damn @dzuk's emoji are super sweet! http://mutant.noct.zone

@nolan @gargron tbh "😕 " is a perfect goodboy and makes all of emojione worth it

@tcql @nolan almost same? https://discordapp.com/assets/b78035b8e2a6a4885d4448198963a14e.svg

@gargron @nolan nooo not the same level of "about to roll away' https://d1j8pt39hxlh3d.cloudfront.net/development/emojione/2.2/846/2219.svg?1464634800

@Gargron maybe people don't care for emoji, maybe we care about emoticons.
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