Hey so, there's been a bit of a kerfuffle with Patreon lately after a terms of service change that threatens all sex workers
There's now an open letter to Patreon to please not do that http://www.openlettertopatreon.com/
The idea of folks losing their livelihood overnight for reasons I cannot see as justified is terrifying, and there's no Patreon alternative either.
@Gargron what about liberapay?
@b3yond I have reached out to Liberapay, they reject the reward/paywall functionality, which is a crucial part of the whole content creator thing
@Gargron oh, didnt know that... Didnt even realize :D
For me this wouldnt be a reason to spend money anyway, the rewards are usually not much for their price (of course).
I rather give out of principle
Liberapay is best for free content, but I have an account on Patreon too even though my content is CC-by
But now, when I began signing the petition I realised that I have removed the NSFW tag even though my comic contains some not sexual nudity. It just seemed so lame to not be listed because of US puritanism.
@Katharsisdrill @b3yond It's gotta be said that no strings attached donations have been around for a while but have not proven to be enough for sustainable living. As sad as it is, when you feel like you're buying something, you're more willing to donate. On the example of Mastodon's Patreon, I'm not sure it would be as successful if there wasn't a $1 paywall on the development Discord, and if I didn't offer various "listed as a sponsor in the credits" options.
Now it is signed!
@Gargron Listing donors will eventually be possible in Liberapay, we're just not there yet.
On the other hand paywalls are much less likely to ever be allowed, as Liberapay is all about liberating stuff, not building walls. That said, if a few walls are necessary to get enough funding to liberate the things that really matter, then perhaps it's an acceptable compromise, but as of now we're not convinced that it really is necessary.
@Liberapay @Gargron @Katharsisdrill @b3yond If you plan to add support for "rewards", keep in mind that donations might no longer be donations if you get something in return.
@b3yond @Katharsisdrill @Gargron @Liberapay I couldn't find anything about it in EU regulations. I know in Germany it may be possible to make donations with a requirement ("Schenkung unter Auflage"), e.g. get access to rewards, but it's quite difficult.
@Gargron @b3yond -
I think that it is only fair that people pay for what they use - my creative commons comic is an experiment to see if you can make something with free content.
I suppose it is mostly a question about internet-culture how money is collected, but I do not know of course. Right now I earn my money on bitcoin-donations, grants and Steemit - neither Patreon nor Liberapay has really worked for me.