@Gargron or just IRC and XMPP?

@ajroach42 @Gargron IRCv3 ~

@ajroach42
Not really; IRC and XMPP are very poor in features when it comes to permissions and message types or just formatting. On the other hand, @matrix already supports HTML and semi supports Markdown. It has a nice permission (power level) system, so it can be fine tuned much better than the other two. We switched from Slack to Matrix two months ago and we donʼt regret.
@Gargron

@gergely @Gargron @matrix @ajroach42 Did you install your own instance?

@loke
Yes we did, and I also have a personal one, too.
@Gargron @matrix @ajroach42

@Gargron @matrix That actually is a useful tip, as we're demoing MS Teams (a... somewhat subpar Slack ripoff, near as I can make out) at the office right now.

Not that our heavily MS shop would go for it, but better than that defaulting to Slack, perhaps, if Teams doesn't pan out.

@greyduck @matrix @Gargron Microsoft Teams is absolutely horrible. I don't like Slack much, but compared to Teams it's the best product ever.

@Gargron @matrix

If matrix could give us something even close to a teams feature it'd be easier for less technical users

@RussSharek @Gargron @matrix Wire is also not too bad and has team features

@charlag @Gargron @matrix

I have a small group of non-technical yet reasonably intelligent users I'm trying to migrate off of slack into something both team focused and ideologically sound.

@RussSharek
Matrix introduced a feature called "communities" some time ago. I don't know Slack but they describe it as similar to Slack Teams but more powerful, you can read more about it here https://medium.com/@RiotChat/communities-aka-groups-are-here-announcing-riot-web-0-13-riot-ios-0-6-and-riot-android-0-7-4-933cb193a28e

Cc @Gargron @matrix

@Gargron
I whish the company I'm working for could do that...

@Gargron @matrix
me: hey, fellow coworkers, we should consider using matrix, so no one owns our work chat data and we can have better data security?
management: nah i don't trust it plus like slack is free??

So much lost opportunity in the small business world due to misunderstanding and distrust of open-source software.

@Gargron @matrix or at least mattermost self-hosted

@Gargron @musicmatze @matrix

How does matrix provide a way to have a closed workspace for groups? Like an enviroment where you can create communication channels for just that group?

@webmind @Gargron @musicmatze @matrix simply create a channel for that group.

@musicmatze @webmind @Gargron @matrix

I am talking about a closed enviroment with a collection of channels. Quite something else

@Gargron @matrix rocket chat is also nice

@matrix @Gargron RocketChat is viable too unless you are specifically emphasizing on encryption which I've not explored in RC

@Gargron
@matrix
We use Matrix for #Aardwolf development chat, and it's great so far.

@gargron @matrix I really hope Riot.im finds a different default server to direct registrations to, Presence is disabled on the Matrix home server so nobody can see when someone is online, and for most people once your instructions go beyond "just click register and make an account" they're right back to things like Slack or Discord.

@polychrome no