new server with content so it doesn't feel empty.
just subsribe to any you want and you'll get the all that content.
in diaspora they're been focused on following hashtags. but you can only see hashtags that.are visable for your.sever, so you need relys.
@paulfree14 The differences are that groups are a specific subset of content being exchanged between participants, whereas social relays are more broad sets of public content being exchanged between servers.
You could say that the first example is like a mailing list, whereas the second is more like a firehose.
@paulfree14 I guess you could say that both things are different approaches to the discovery problem. If you're saavy and know how to find groups, that's not so bad, but if you're totally new and have no idea of where to go, discovering groups in the first place is much harder.
** guided sign up as in twitter where you will be askes to subscibe to some suggestions
...but it could be also like an email list that 'everyone' signs to. And if that's to much, making very general ones like freesoftware (where then also everyone describes to...hmmm), or queer....etc.
where's the difference from the perspective of solving the described issue between doing it via releys and groups?
...thoght the positive side effect is, that I anyway like to have groups for mastodon xD.
@paulfree14 Don't get me wrong, groups are great, and I'd love to see them in the fediverse. It's a wonderful, wonderful feature.
I guess you could say social relay is a passive solution on the user's part, whereas groups are an active solution. Opting into a group is a conscious choice by the user, whereas the relay is more of a resource to initiate discovery for new users in the first place (and can be a means for discovering groups on other servers)
The social relay itself is a way to fight a classic problem of giant instances vs tiny instances, where tiny instances only see a fraction of the content of the fediverse. The social relay was introduced to Diaspora as a way to make starting smaller pods easier, in the sense that you could more easily discover the wider federated community.
@Gargron Just reached out to Jason Robinson, who worked on the Diaspora implementation. He might have some handy insights!
@Gargron ah yes, the WHARRGARBL protocol
@theoutrider you joke, and yet now I feel compelled to pick that as a project name
@theoutrider it'd be an opportunity to try out the Crystal language, too
@Gargron ah yes, Crystal WHARRGARBL, the most addictive form of WHARRGARBL
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