@Mastodon Looking forward to post editing!

I realize the importance of giving instances time to upgrade to the new version that supports editing. Do you have a rough idea how long the wait will be - e.g. 3 months, 6 months, or a year?

@digitalfox @Mastodon Wait, Mastodon hasn't done post editing before? How has it handled other fediverse clients that push edited posts after the fact...?

@xipher Before 3.5.0, it looks like post edits/updates might have just been ignored based on github.com/mastodon/mastodon/b versus the current situation with github.com/mastodon/mastodon/b

I'd have to ask someone more familiar with the ActivityPub protocol to confirm - @Gargron ?

(The new release records edit history and notifies anyone who has already boosted, not just updating the toot contents, so it was more work than just updating a record.)
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@digitalfox @Gargron @Mastodon I had no idea that the posts I was editing were probably just... being ignored by Mastodon users >.> holy crap! wow...

EDIT!: Actually as a test, I wonder, can you see this edit I've made? You liked this post so I'm sure you've seen it, but.... will you see /this/?
@digitalfox @Gargron @Mastodon I edited that post after you liked it, curious if you see the edit now... ;)

@xipher Yep, your edits show up, as does your edit history and your original message - see my attached screenshot.

@xipher I do appreciate having the full edit history neatly tucked away, but accessible in case someone changes the meaning of a message. And "Delete & redraft" remains as an option if someone wants to remove that.

(It also shows up on my mobile client, that just doesn't yet show the message history.)

@Mastodon as a note the github.com/mastodon/mastodon/r page says the Ruby versions is "2.5 up to 3.1" in the dependencies list, but the actual git checkout (.ruby-version) and install instructions below specify Ruby 3.0.3 instead. I assume the first is a typo, but who knows it could be the second :)

@morix @Mastodon you can run Mastodon with any version of ruby from 2.5 to 3.1 if you're using distro-provided Ruby for instance. Using rbenv (which is not mandatory), it'll try to use 3.0.3 by default

@Claire @Mastodon ah, yeah okay I get it now, first ones a range seconds the default for rbenv, okay nevermind I was just misreading the docs then.

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Yes, I stumbled across that too. Does anyone know what applies?

@morix @Mastodon Nevermind. The update went smoothly (with Ruby 3.0.3). 😅

@beedaddy @Mastodon yeah its because I was upgrading while sleepy so I misread "2.5 up to 3.1" as meaning "the base level moves from 2.5 to 3.1" and not its actual meaning "you can use any version from 2.5 to 3.1"

@morix I guess, 3.1 is the highest supported version and 3.0.3 is the recommended version. Many admins might prefer an older, more tested and proven to be stable release.

@Mastodon Cool, dig that #Mastodon gets edting posts before Twitter does...if they ever do.

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Got any estimate on when editing will actually be turned on? Upgrading is a big pain in the ass and none of the other changes feel worth the hassle for my small invite-only instance.

@anthracite @Mastodon I guess the sooner we all update, the sooner editing will be available. btw, the update went smoothly here.

@anthracite @Mastodon There are also security fixes in the update. You don’t have to do the double db:migrate stuff if that bothers you and you don’t mind a short interruption of service.

@pintman @Mastodon Nice to see some money actually goes into funding useful things.

@Mastodon did y’all update the Twemoji library (and thus the emoji picker)?

@Mastodon update went flawlessly. The new features are great ! Thanks for all the hard work !

@Mastodon is this a seamless upgrade for those of us deployed in docker using 3.2? We can just change the version? Or are there individual migrations we need to do along the way?

@Mastodon @Gargron I'm a bit confused about the explore tab. For trends it's possible to auto-approve them, so you don't need to manually do this. Because that costs a lot of time. It would be great if users can report trends, so moderators can act on that.

But posts (and news I presume, but I don't see any news posts yet) you need to manually approve. This can be very labour intensive. I don't think you can expect from moderators (mostly volunteers) to check every few hours if there are new posts. I think an auto-approve setting is very needed here. If the posts are problematic, users can report them. Right now it's to time consuming for us moderators. Actually I just approve them all, cause I don't have the time to individually check them.

The alternative would be to disable the explore tab all together using css.

@joenepraat @Mastodon As you can approve authors/publishers instead of individual posts/links, and there is a limited number of actually regularly popular authors/publishers, the workload is reduced after an initial burst

@Gargron @Mastodon It's still a hell of a job to find out if a user is legit. A lot of servers doesn't have this capacity. I really think it would be good to have an an auto-approve options for the posts. On smaller good moderated servers those posts are already usable. Also an option to report trends is a good idea in my opinion. Another idea is to let users vote posts and trends down (with a threshold to remove them completely). This will make it even more a community process.

@joenepraat @Gargron @Mastodon As soon as you get into stuff like users voting on trends, then things could get quite unpleasant with brigading, pump-and-dump, and such. Personally, I think voting up and down in a social media context is a failed paradigm, because it's always gamed. As you say it's hard to validate users, but even if all users are valid, legit users can still be paid for influence.

@bob Yes you are right. That is not a good idea. Just making users able to report trend would be the best option, so mods can decide. Damn, even Twitter has that option.

@Gargron OK, publishers I understand, but authors is like approving all Mastodon users individually. Better to add something like trusted domains.

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> Coincidentally, the order of media attachments in a post is no longer dependent on the order in which they were uploaded

meaning that we can order the media attachments?

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