@marc0janssen
There is no point if your friends don't use it, try to convince close friends and then spread that circle slowly

@nikolal yes that’s the hard part. All are not worried or conscious about privacy at all.

@marc0janssen @nikolal you should ditch both #WhatsApp & #signal. github.com/privacytoolsIO/priv Tell your friends if they really care to stay in touch with you, they would not impose a system that requires you to register a phone#.

@marc0janssen
I think you need to set up first your threat model. Do you need your chats to be secure while you chat with your friends? Or do you need to have anonymity while chatting? I don't need anonymity but I like my chats to be secure with FOSS project so I'm using Signal which is proven to do that job very well. thehackernews.com/2016/10/sign
As for anonymous chat apps I suggest Briar, but again you have to scan each other QR codes for identity exchange
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@nikolal @resist1984 thanks Nikolal. I need to start convincing people to use signal. I read that Facebook also bought gyphy. People need to see that Facebook is up to no good.

@marc0janssen @nikolal convincing ppl to use #Signal makes you part of the problem. You become the person that pushes people into a #walledgarden that excludes those who don't want to share their ph# & patronize all the privacy-abusing tech giants. See github.com/privacytoolsIO/priv

@nikolal @marc0janssen mass surveillance should be in your threat model, and #Signal promotes all the mass surveillance-pushing tech giants (#Amazon, #Google, #CloudFlare, #Facebook)

@marc0janssen @nikolal for iOS (and presumably low-tech users) you need Wire, which doesn't require a ph#.

@marc0janssen @nikolal no it doesn't. It's optional. If you don't supply a ph# then you must supply an email (which can be disposable)

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Even though wire is and one doesn't need ph# and can use disposable with . wire target market is , 🤑not the consumer market🤢, although they have free consumer app. wire is more for rather than as their is saved on wire servers in . It can also be self-hosted.

So wire is good for security, but not to be 😎 (sort of if disposable email used)

Just my two cents input.

peace out👌👍😎

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