@PrincessOfCats that was one of it the problems with trying to build a "model" of a hacker, because basically they're more pit bull anything else. Refuse to surrender just because of something silly like failure.

@thegrugq @PrincessOfCats "Refuse to surrender just because of something silly like failure."

Or, you know... other obligations...

@thegrugq I think there are two types: intuitive and exhaustive. Both are dogged. Awoooooooooooooooooooooooook

@thegrugq @PrincessOfCats

The most intelligent man in the world can complete a task in one hour.

A persistent man can do it in one month. End results are the same.

Perseverance is another form of intelligence.

@xy @thegrugq I am dumb AF but I refuse to show weakness ;)

@xy @PrincessOfCats @thegrugq in a way, perseverance evolves intelligence. It may be more important than intelligence, because, intelligence people quit things, too.

@donb @thegrugq @xy the reason I posted the Prometheus Rising section is that it can be hard to learn to have productive perseverance. I find I have to think in certain ways to be able to focus on something for that long.I have to believe I will win.

@PrincessOfCats @xy @thegrugq this is something I think about a lot, especially now that I have a little one. How to teach him the difference between obsession and perseverance, motivation, and evaluating ROI. It's possibly the most important lesson humans learn for long term success.

@PrincessOfCats @xy @thegrugq @donb Invoke often eh? :)

@donb @thegrugq @PrincessOfCats @xy https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-secret-to-raising-smart-kids1/

@xy @PrincessOfCats @thegrugq I'd contend that the persistent one learned more in that time, having tried more things that didn't work. Intelligence starts you at a higher base point, but persistence provides more long-term potential.

@xy @PrincessOfCats @thegrugq Agree on this somewhat. IQ is first derivative of skill with respect to effort. Lower IQ can be compensated by more effort to a degree.

@HalvarFlake @thegrugq @PrincessOfCats @xy

As FX always says: "Stubbornness compensates for a lot of talent."