@Shamar @kaniini @starbreaker @rysiek I'm skeptical of and concerned about commercial exploitation too. Problem is, "noncommercial" doesn't fix the things you'll expect it to, and will prevent things you want.

Here's a question: if Linux were noncommercial, should a community run nonprofit be legally allowed to run it in a commercially run hosting service / datacenter? Even if the hosting service profits from it? Can the cooperative collect dues?

@cwebber @Shamar @kaniini @starbreaker @rysiek

Have you seen the peer production license? wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Peer_Pr

I think its a bit better than a blanket NC license. What I really want is a license requiring income from a commercial entity be used to improve the software. Either by spending time working on it, or paying for others time.

@alienghic @Shamar @kaniini @starbreaker @rysiek I think the Peer Production License is a license with good intents and good people that is unfortunately doomed like every other NC approach

@cwebber @Shamar @kaniini @starbreaker @rysiek

So far the hybrid GPL/commerical license seems to be the most likely to generate funding for developers while still being "Free software"

@alienghic @Shamar @kaniini @starbreaker @rysiek by that I assume you mean copyleft with proprietary relicensing?

It has some problems sometimes but I'm generally good with it. :)

@shamar @rysiek @starbreaker @cwebber @diggity @alienghic @kaniini If you want to prevent yourself from the opportunity to take your project proprietary, make sure to get more contributors, and have everyone retain their copyright to their contributions.

@clacke @rysiek @starbreaker @cwebber @diggity @alienghic @kaniini

I do not WANT to give away my copyright, but I could accept to, if I was sure that the code would not be turned into a private profit.

However, accepting contributions under the same license only limit me and everybody else to that license, which might not be strict enough to prevent future explitations.

@shamar @rysiek @starbreaker @cwebber @diggity @alienghic @kaniini I'm not saying give away anything. I'm saying use copyleft, invite others to join, and don't ask them to give away anything either.

Then, barring someone buying up the whole community, the project and all its derivatives is perpetually free software.
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