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@Mogsie @feld @dtluna @karen
BSD Users are so strict about their license they would never accept something else beside BSD License.

So instead of improving the world and the available tool, they waste their manpower in re-writing/cloning everything from GNU.

So they actually do have a lot of tools that have the same name, but are actually different

@Vamp898 @karen @dtluna @Mogsie Additionally we are happy with other licenses. ISC, MIT, CDDL... that's how we have ZFS and DTrace, but Linux doesn't. (yet... DTrace is now getting dual-licensed to appease Linux, but you still won't get ZFS in your kernel)

@feld @karen @dtluna @Mogsie
Stallman did that because back then, UNIX was not free.

He rewrote/cloned everything to provide an free alternative.

If there is a Free Software, it will not be re-written just to have an GPL variant.

BSD Software can be shared together with GNU Software very easily and all official GNU/Linux Distributions do that.

There are some rare exceptions and those are heavily discussed but those are rather exceptions.

@Vamp898 @Mogsie @dtluna @karen I'm aware that BSD code wasn't BSD licensed at the time, but the point still stands that Stallman is the original NIH programmer.

On the other hand, we can't add GPL code into our OS. It's just not possible. We have many many vendors who rely on FreeBSD that cannot have additional GPL code without having to involve lots and lots of lawyers. It's cheaper for them to give us $100k to rewrite GNU blah(1) instead of paying $500k to lawyers for legal review of their next product release.

@feld @Mogsie @dtluna @karen

> but the point still stands that Stallman is the original NIH programmer.

I didn't knew that this was ever a point :P

I also disagreed with GNote back then because for me, it was just Tomboy with Mono.

If it is free, it is free, i don't care about anything else. I dont see the need to rewrite something to make it different free.

@Vamp898 @karen @dtluna @Mogsie but GPL code is not free. That's why we end up having to rewrite it.

If you have to invoke legal council, it's not free. Unless you live in a world where lawyers don't require money for services?

BSD/ISC/MIT code is truly free. You can do anything you want with it. That's the point.

@feld @Vamp898 @karen @dtluna @Mogsie my understanding is that gpl is about user freedom, rather than developer freedom. MIT generally doesn't do anything to protect users

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@animeirl @feld @Vamp898 @karen @Mogsie@niu.moe

So protects and to the , to improve it, to experiment and spread what they have learnt.
All and all , not just the contributors to a specific software.

and just protects the contributor to be sued for in their code.

Now, being a matter of , the does not really matter: the point is the of the project's .

As teaches.

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@Shamar @Mogsie @Vamp898 @feld @animeirl look, I don't even care about what you have to say but your usage of hashtags is physically hurting me

Please cease
@karen @Shamar @Mogsie @Vamp898 @animeirl its like someone ate a bowl of Instagrams and vomited them on your timeline

@Shamar @feld @karen @Mogsie @Vamp898 Actually, they're for categorization and searching topics. Not sure where you got that idea...