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I have a suspicion that a lot of cishet men are shy and reticent about challenging gender norms because they have this internalized idea that it isn't their lane. Go for it, yo. You have the best armor rating. Tank.
@Zero_Democracy People gatekeeping even remotely queer spaces is also an issue. A lot of those dissuade cishet men from exploring gender norms or learning.
@grainloom @Zero_Democracy thats a useless distinction, you'd also have to throw out bi guys or non-passing trans lesbians then because straight men could also pretend to be those - you see where this leads?
@Shotagonist @Zero_Democracy I've read stuff like a guy recommending other guys to go to gay bars to hit on girls because girls "have their guards down" when they assume they are around gay men
but that is only one anecdotal thing in support of gatekeeping
on the other hand, my irl lgbt friends all said that we should definitely go to a gay bar, so, idk