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@Solobasssteve digging this so far. I'm sure I'll have more comments and questions. But as someone who has long been interested in live looping but never pulled the trigger, what are you using?
@Troll pretty much all the looping on this is done with the Looperlative LP1 (a 16 channel rack mount looper that I helped design about 13 years ago :) ) - some of what sounds like looping is me manipulating long delays in the TC Flashback pedal. And I've got about 6 other loopers, but weren't using them here :)
@Troll there are a number of really cool free software options - look into Mobius and Sooperlooper. I'm not sure either is still being developed, but they still work great :)
@Solobasssteve Maybe I'm showing my lack of computer use for the last 7 years or so, but isn't latency a problem?
@Troll depends how sensitive you are to it. You can get a reasonably quick laptop down to about 6 or 7ms pretty comfortably. I've become less sensitive over time - I used to freak out at any latency. My system now has about 7ms, so the equivalent of sitting 7ft (roughly( further away from my amp :) )
@Solobasssteve so with my currently available hardware it'd be more like 300ms. Ha!
It's worth playing with. I have a small focusrite from a buddy I can use with my desktop and see if mobius works. Worth a shot.
@Troll yeah, my Macbook is a 2009, and I can get down to about 12-15ms with that. My Dell is an i7 and WAY faster (though Win10 is mostly horrific for audio)...
@Solobasssteve my desktop is an old first gen i7 with vista 32bit. I suppose it would be acceptable.
@Troll definitely! that's easily fast enough.
@Solobasssteve @Troll I've managed to use a 2009 Win XP Netbook with atom processor and 1GB of ram in a live situation running a comb filter with guitar direct in and its worked a treat with no latency issues.
Not as intensive as looping, admittedly, but its amazing what you can squeeze out of older hardware when you try!
@Solobasssteve Using mobius while having no way but the laptop touchpad to control it is kinda worthless. this is frustrating.
@Troll yeah, that's not going to be easy! There are ways of doing it, if you think about the affordances for playing things that don't have a sound at the beginning (I've twice had to do a whole gig without my foot controller for the looper, because I left it at home... really sharpens your sense of form and ability to count in time! :D
@pettter @Troll my main effects processor, the MOD Duo is actually a Linux box in a pedal - http://moddevices.com - but I haven't used it on a laptop... There are some amazing LV2 plug-ins though!
I have not used linux in a long, long while. I'm reusing a lot of other stuff right now that I haven't in ages so I can only stomach so much at once for now.
@Solobasssteve Yeah, I could tell some of it was other efx manipulation.
I kinda get the feeling I'd sell myself short and cheaped out on a basic pedal looper. As in, I'd want more functionality/capabilities. But of course I'd hate to spend big money and not take to it.