So far, the biggest problem getting people from using Windows to using #Linux is that there are a million different distros and 500+ solutions to every problem you can encounter. It's overwhelming. It then becomes an "evil I know vs the one I don't." But what the hardest obstacle for me is explaining that EVERY combination of distro versus solution is about 80% valid as long as you are willing to use your head, where as Microsoft would rather you use your wallet and be too scared to leave.
@TheOuterLinux it’s the typical analysis paralysis problem of too many choices. It’s simultaneously a blessing and a curse.
@TheOuterLinux normal people will not want to learn. they just want to use something and get things done. and Linux has so many choices they need to figure and try before they decide. but I would recommend Linux Mint for beginners tbh. after that if they want to go deeper they can. or they can just stay with Linux Mint if it gets their shit done.
@TheOuterLinux also I think the rising of Flatpaks and Snaps will make things much more easier for them since you can get latest software on a rock solid base.
@r00tobo I'm not much of a snap or flatpak fan when things like repos and AppImages exist. Call me paranoid, but it sounds more like Microsoft whispering into Canonical's ear (again) to help them setup before buying. Snaps and flatpaks make developers much more happy than it does average users but unfortunately, most Linux articles are written by devs. All you need to do is "sudo apt install." Heaven forbid anyone has to run firejail, but containerized software for the average user is bs
@r00tobo The way I see it, programs that are containerized and and handled the ways snaps are, it's just a step or two away from "proprietary" and "registry keys," but being rebranded ahead of time using pleasant Linux wording.
@TheOuterLinux don't get me wrong. me myself I don't usually use flatpak and snap I use the traditional packaging system. but for newbies it's a good thing. at least using Linux ecosystem is much more better than using Windows or Mac. it's open at heart. unlike mac and windows.
@TheOuterLinux yesterday I was thinking that almost every pretty known Linux YouTube channel does nothing but distributions overview. That felt strange, when I figured this out 😂😂😂
@alexcleac Well, if it makes any feel better, I only upload to BitChute instead of YouTube, de-googling my life. And, most of my videos are just unique things you can do in the command-line or projects I'm working on. https://bitchute.com/theouterlinux. And those reading and wanting to say "PeerTube," let us compare viewer counts. Hell, I even beat Lunduke on vid.me with just as many videos, but getting followers is the harder part.
@alexcleac And by "just as many videos," I'm referring to the same amount of videos I have on ButChute now. He had waaay more than I did.
@alexcleac @TheOuterLinux most of YouTube these days is quickly put together vids of easily digested content that's designed to attract viewers and subscribers. Doesn't matter what the topic is, you can see it everywhere.
Also I suspect many people are like me and would rather read articles or blogs to find out things in depth.
Videos are for showing off flashy things.
@TheOuterLinux Good thing we have Distrowatch as a shining light of beacon. It can use an update to include target audience for each distro using some keywords.
@TheOuterLinux What I meant is the "Category" section. It is too generic in my opinion. For instance see Arch, it says Desktop, Raspberry Pi, Server. Nowhere does that indicate that it caters to fairly advanced users.
@ashwinvis That's because people are terrible at both writing and reading summaries. The description does say "targeted at competent Linux users." There is also a reader rating at the bottom to make sure the descriptions and package information is accurate.
@ashwinvis I will say that the wording of "competent" is a little much though. I think it's a clever way to insult other Linux users that don't use Arch. But then again, Arch users prefer "query" of the word "search" when it comes to package management, so maybe they mean it in the literal sense.
@TheOuterLinux Maybe. I tend to think it could be an inherent flaw in the categories available. And it is not just Arch, I also checked NixOS.
@ashwinvis I don't know how the pages are maintained and if the makers write them or if DistroWatch does. They would have to be the ones doing the "Beginner" rating because everyone would cheat to get those slots. The desktop environments are what make or break it for beginners. They need a questionnaire such as:
1. "Which of these images do you find the most appealing?"
2. "Can you live without your mouse?"
3. "Round or square corners for windows?"
4. "Do you know how to compile from source?"
@ashwinvis And the other trick that might get me yelled at throughout the day is NEVER ask a game or web developer's opinion when it comes to distros. We don't all have $5k machines and some of us don't even have 64-bit. It's rare, but you never know.
@TheOuterLinux So just use Mint 😉
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