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This article by Bruce Schneier is spot on: Though well-intentioned "facial recognition bans are the wrong way to fight against modern surveillance. Focusing on one particular identification method misconstrues the nature of the surveillance society we’re in the process of building."
nytimes.com/2020/01/20/opinion

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it's all good, plenty of valid points, but setting some red lines as new technologies are being mass-introduced is still very important. Also, face recognition in public spaces *is* different, as consent is simply not possible. With other technologies mentioned there, e.g. credit cards, consent is somehow possible. it's a sham, it's abused, but it's not quite the same. Also, there's no encryption or Tor for my face.

@Tutanota In a world where someone can identify you at a distance by your heartbeat, gait and other metrics, Schneider is correct. We have to stand up and demand our privacy in total, and not in part by banning a singular technology like facial recognition. It does not help that these facial recognition systems are usually tied into AI systems identifying everything about someone including the clothing and gait distance, as seen in the myriad articles covering Chinese surveillance systems.

@subca @Tutanota I imagine they aren't quite as polished but I would rather not see the equivalent of a surveillance arms race.

@Tutanota I don't agree. Taking one example, i.c. face recognition, is symbolically for other tools. You have to start with something, then other tools can follow.

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