The EU Council is pushing for encryption backdoors to messenger apps such as WhatsApp and Signal to fight terrorism (German article):

Despite the fact that errors of investigation in Austrian authorities had made the attack possible in the first place and not a lack of digital surveillance powers. Politicians must start to understand that more surveillance will not lead to more security. That's why we fight any attempt for an encryption backdoor:

@Tutanota If anything, it would actually hurt security, because they are throwing in resources that otherwise would have been better spent on something productive... like hiring more police/investigators. Information overload is a big thing. :shiro_sad2:

I boost that story, but it's the same story for.. since the clipper chip? 25 years or something..


When you create a backdoor, you create a backdoor. In 2004-5, a similar design approach, aka "lawful interception", made possible the "Greek Watergate".

@Tutanota Well, as somebody who had to give full access to my phone and let it be examined by security staff at Orly airport (in fact employees of EL AL), without me being present during whatever they did with the device, I somehow think the issue is a bit deeper than that. I could refuse, but then I was told I could not board the plane. Yes, EL AL is not a European company, but they operate in Europe, and I am an EU citizen. Was that legal, dunno.

@dimpase @Tutanota Interesting article! Though I have a question: How does "Technical solutions for gaining access to encrypted data..:" not sum to an E2EE ban or backdoor? The ultimate goal of E2EE is to not allow access to the data by others.

@matiaslavik @Tutanota There are various possible things, such as whether a state (upon approval by a judge) can try to hack into the system via some kind of malware, for instance. I imagine this differs from one jurisdiction to another. E.g. in Netherlands there is at the moment a high profile court case going, against a gang that basically offered murders and torture for hire (and then they went on killing witnesses, a lawyer, etc). A part of evidence are decrypted messages from their interactions.

@Tutanota anyone who wants to hide something will still do it by private encryption for example. Everyone else gets surveiled. Thats is mass surveillance and needs to be stopped!!

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