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Every time I mention Wire, someone gets all up in my timeline about how it leaks metadata and that Signal is the most secure. Having to use your phone number is a pretty impressive hunk of metadata to leak, yo.

"But there are workarounds!" If your first response is to suggest a *workaround*, you've ignored the fundamental design flaw.

Of course, neither of them use #IPv6, so it's hard for me get excited about either one. I go where my friends are (firmly entrenched).

Andrew Ford Lyons @aiefel

@nivex Well said. I don't consider Wire or Signal to be anonymity tools, and people needing that should be looking at things that don't require log in details to use, such as a quick Meet Jitsi session or the like, or get further into their use habits. Anything that you can avoid tying to Real You is an anonymity tool. And that's the hard part.

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@aiefel @nivex I think too many people confuse secure communications, and anonymous communications.

@UberGeek @nivex This is true. though, I suppose it depends on what you're trying to secure. Anonymity is about securing access to the knowledge of who you really are. That's all.

@aiefel @nivex True, true... I guess when I say "secure" communications, it's a channel where an eavesdropper cannot see the content. Anonymous means an eavesdropper might be able to read the content, but doesn't know source/destination.