@h_tejas
Look at https://riot.im as a replacement to #WhatsApp. It is decentralized similar to #Mastodon but suited for private conversations and groups with end to end encryption for assured #privacy It is powered by #Matrix protocol and two instances are manged by Indians https://diasp.in and https://poddery.com
@amarsharma @praveen @h_tejas its centralised and uses your phone number. Absolute disaster. Snowden has a different threat model.
Chaps use prosody server with conversations as your client on android for whatsapp replacement... works a treat.
@amarsharma @praveen @h_tejas
@techbolt @amarsharma @h_tejas @praveen i do and its great, but no good software for iOS :(
Hi Akash.. was trying to test if I can reach you on conversations and received this error...
"Messages from strangers are rejected"
Would you mind adding me as a contact using my XMPP id:
techbolt@im.safebook.space
@techbolt hey sorry I was using Bruno the jabber bear earlier and removed it along with many other apps after my tab started lagging, since I was in no active convo. Gimme 5, see you there :)
@techbolt need you online to verify keys
I got ur message and hopefully u got two from me... one unencrypted and one omemo encrypted... just checking
@techbolt what :( none
@akash @amarsharma @praveen @h_tejas
Centralized is not always bad its run by a Not for profit organization its good for what it is i.e. WhatsApp without Facebook. Riot is good for Team chats i.e. Discord alternative. For best privacy/security jabber is the way to go with omemo encryption.
Signal is very easy to use and intuitive that cant be said for Jabber as you need to be tech literate.
Signal is good but the developer is way over his head... shoots down anyone not agreeing to his views and forks aren't allowed to use open sync so that kind of defeats the purpose... I think camp protocol is not that difficult and conversation developer also offers a solution for users not interested in running their own server.
@techbolt @amarsharma @h_tejas @akash @praveen
Yeah I do see that they are against having the app on FDroid too.
You mean running prosody server?
@techbolt sent you a DM.
@praveen @akash @amarsharma @h_tejas
Ya even tor can be blocked. That's it what I meant.
@null0x0
People can create unlisted tor nodes, there is no single point of failure.
@praveen @akash @amarsharma @h_tejas tor traffic can be traced and blocked at isp level. Everything has an upside/downside. I agree with you on tors resilience to blockades.
@praveen @null0x0 @akash @amarsharma @h_tejas there are ways to hide Tor traffic and use it even when govt is trying to block. That is how China and Iran gets Tor.
@praveen @null0x0 @akash @amarsharma @h_tejas you can make your Tor traffic look like https or smtp, goto configuration dialog and say Tor is blocked in your country.
@null0x0
I don't think you need so much tech savvyness for xmpp, its exactly like #mastodon, get the app, find a server, sign up.
There is https://quicksy.im for those who don't even want that much effort. It works like #WhatsApp, just give your phone number, confirm and find friends via address book.
@praveen @akash @amarsharma @h_tejas ask @techbolt about the ease of use/intuitive ness of jabber.
@akash @amarsharma @praveen @h_tejas disaster is which way? Other than giving out a phone to anyone who wants to talk you? There is also alternative to pass special numbers only for signal ?
Server run by the main developers of the project 
It is not focused on any particular niche interest - everyone is welcome as long as you follow our code of conduct!
@amarsharma
It is also centralized by design, definitely better than #WhatsApp and #Telegram since it is #FreeSoftware. You still have to depend on a single entity, so easy to block and we never know what happens when leadership changes. You cannot run a #Signal instance yourself if you want to interoperate with users of official Signal server. With #Matrix anyone can run a server, just like #mastodon and we already run 2 such servers https://poddery.com https://diasp.in
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