So, while there still aren't many fascists around, shall we actually engage about Indian history? If you have questions, my friends, ask away.
@audreytruschke Very intrigued to know about work done on sexuality, particularly in the later Mughal/Maratha period. Would love finger-pointing in productive direction/recommended readings!
@anishgawande Well, there's a robust literature on the nautch girls; I'll admit, it's never really held my interest. There's some interesting discussion on the Nawabs of Lucknow, their pleasure activities, its relationship to politics, and colonial misconstrual thereof.
@audreytruschke, thanks much! Nautch girls might be a good place to start. Also construction of Nawab lifestyles.
@MubarakHussenSheikh Oh, I'd say all three were pretty bloody. The third has a particularly grisly reputation. I hear Bollywood is about to come out with a film on it, although I do not have high hopes for its accuracy.
@MubarakHussenSheikh Oh, well, I'm actually not entirely certain they were all fought in the same place. If memory serves, there is some uncertainty about the location of the third battle. But, anyways, the general reason is really its strategic location near Delhi.
@audreytruschke Thank God. Finally a chance a talk to you without standing with a crowd of antisemites and trolls.
I always wanted to know your opinion on the Aryan Migration theory.
@HillyBilly The AMT is backed by nearly iron-clad linguistic evidence and increasingly strong genetic evidence. In my assessment, the linguistic evidence settled this theory as correct a long time ago. More people are convinced by the genetic evidence, it seems, since science is so highly prized in contemporary culture. As research progresses, we may tweak this theory further (a good, normal think for academics to do), but the basic outline is solidly established.
*Raises hand* I'm finding difficult to convince my friend that we cannot go back to a Hindu-Rashtra, not because it is impractical, but because it never existed in the first place. What do you usually do to make people realise the untruth in the history put-forward by ideology?
@vishnuvaratharajan It really depends on the person.
Some people don't want to know about the past; they only want to make up stuff about the past. I have nothing to say to such people, only about them.
For those with whom there is some hope, keep asking them questions. When did this Hindu rashtra exist? Who ruled it? Who else lived in it? Why didn't anybody call themselves Hindu in it? Why is it so important for it to have existed? Does it matter if the Hindu-Rashtra in the past is a myth?
@ParadoxicalPari Not that I am aware of. It may not even represent a full language. (The IVC certainly had a language, or many languages, but that doesn't mean the script represents it/them, at least not in full).
@wasimsf Huge question. I don't have a clear answer; nobody does. I offer some thoughts and criticisms of major scholarly theories here: http://audreytruschke.com/truschke-power-of-the-islam.pdf
Not really a history question, but one on politics : what do you think about the need to explore the dichotomy between Hinduism and Hindutva from a political-strategy point-of-view in #India ?
Most of the BJP's supporters conflate Hindutva with Hinduism, and IMHO, we aren't helping things by careless use of words like "bhakt".
I had mailed you on this topic as well, not sure if you got a chance to see it.
@AmitRamesan Hindutva ideologues conflate their hateful ideology with Hinduism in order to deflect criticism. That conflation is offensive to many Hindus. It is also a signal of the indefensible nature of Hindutva ideology.
I'm not sure how bhakt comes into this, however. After all, you can be a bhakta of anything, not only a god.
My understanding of the meaning of the word "bhakt" is around its religious connotation, and the "bhakt of anything" is a more-recent English-media phenomenon . You or @ranasafvi Ma'am can correct me if I am wrong here. Am reasonably confident that the voting masses use the original meaning.
So, if you accuse a religious Hindu, especially from North India , who doesn't subscribe to Hindutva, of being a "bhakt", that's err... confusing.
Guess which side she'll lean on?
@audreytruschke Were there monarchs in the subcontinent who ruled with fairness and espoused socialist politics in one form or the other? How does the best of monarchs compare with the democratic leaders of the modern world?
@dearthofsid They do not compare well. If you want to judge premodern Indian kings by modern standards, really, you can stop at "premodern." That's all you need to know to condemn them by our 21st-century standards. Personally, I find that uninteresting and unenlightening, and so I choose to ask different questions about the past.
@audreytruschke if you have to discuss Aurangzeb and Shivaji, then how would you describe Shivaji as
@ghaliblaskar Speaking casually: Shivaji was a Maratha warrior who gave Aurangzeb a real run for his money.
@audreytruschke so, since you agree that he was both a plunderer and a king, would you plz elaborate on that topic as to why you agree that he was both a plunderer and as well as a king.
@audreytruschke am trying to find books on armed revolutionaries in bengal in 1900-1947 era. I read some fat ones back in childhood from the library, but, do not remember any name. I want to read all the amazing things they did.
@audreytruschke No it will NOT be good
All H Fascist, who were banned on Twitter, already here Mastodon en mass
Its hard luck 4 those, who think it'll be any better than Twitter. It'll be much worse. Ex Quora
Its only a matter of time, when HF will totally be Free &uncensored
Infact H Fascist can create their own unique (universe) a tight knit anonymous circle, using Mastodon servers, which wasn't possible on Twitter or any other platforms
Servers will be fully controlled by them, NOT mods
@audreytruschke Could you give any examples of Hindu kings who have destroyed religious temples or mosques or Buddhist sites to establish authority. You faced some pushback on the chola kings shiva temple sacking example @ #birdsite. I tend to agree with the criticism of the comparison as the king was a shiv bhakt, wasn't he? Could you elaborate here without all the abuse and noise distracting you.
I could. But, honestly, I'm weary of this subject. It's pretty old news for historians. If you're interested, read this on it: https://frontline.thehindu.com/static/html/fl1725/17250620.htm
@audreytruschke Hindutva is indeed a political project that was started by Savarkar and his ilk. But some scholars suggest that Hinduism itself was a political project which was invented in the 20th century and before that only castes existed. What's your take on this?
@suvadeep0709 I cannot know his heart, but based on his actions and statements: No. He demanded that others be theists as well and considered atheism grounds for expulsion from the imperial court.
@audreytruschke can you tell me about the Maratha invasion of Bengal , we have not read much about it in our text books
@suvadeep0709 A short read aimed at a popular readership on this is: https://scroll.in/article/776978/forgotten-indian-history-the-brutal-maratha-invasions-of-bengal
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