@b3yond
Technically not *all*science (obviously):

> The idea is to open up publicly funded research to everyone

Just the science that has already been bought and paid for. Still Wham!

Scientific journals are a scam.

#openAccess

@Qwxlea you're totally correct, sorry. also only the publicly funded science of the future, afaict.

@b3yond mixed messages from the EU. We get this which is unquestionably good, but we also get the copyright directive which is unquestionably bad. One hand giveth, one hand taketh away

@LibertyPaulM easily explainable: different actors do different stuff with their capabilities. In the initiative there are good parts, too - over the bad apples we tend to forget this. @senficon@twitter.com was doing a good job there, in the end.

@b3yond That's fucking great news. Free the knowledge!

@b3yond Rather! My EU-love just went from 4 to 🔥9🔥.

@Shufei yes, similarly... no they only need to make the fucking borders open access

@b3yond
@aadilayub

While on the surface this seems like a brilliant idea, I think it warrants analysis.

Let's first ask these 3 questions:

Who owns?
Who labours?
Who benefits?

It would be good (IMO) to consider that it's capitalism that is driving this push, it is not about more open science . The more "open" that science is or becomes, the more that corporations can take the knowledge that was learnt (often paid for with public funds) and use it for their own benefit.

@redandgreen14 @b3yond what is the alternative? Better this than scientific knowledge being enclosed in walled gardens (universities) and hidden behind paywalls.

@aadilayub
@b3yond
Excellent question. One for which I do not have an answer. As long as capitalism exists, there will be exploitation, including of knowledge.

I agree that it is better than now. I also think the walled gardens and paywalls are inextricably tied together. I also want to caution us to remember that reformism is not the answer and final goal; rather only a step along the path.

@redandgreen14 @aadilayub of course liberation of knowledge means that it's also free for commercial use. This is a good thing.

Not only are we taking the profit away from monopolized corps with a toxic business model. For companies & cooperatives, it decreases the dependency from capital.

If we want cooperatives and solidarity economy to take over production and establish hegemony over capitalist forms of production and exchange, then this is even necessary.

@redandgreen14 @aadilayub this means now:

Everyone owns.
Scientists work, paid by the state.
No one profits, because there is no commodity.

The EU is creating a giant commons. There are not many things more communist than that. Spoiler: in communism, also former capitalists will get the free stuff

@b3yond @aadilayub

Hahaha, yes, indeed they will (and deserve to as much as anyone else, although they won't be the first in the queue!). Let's just remember to not get caught in the misconception that everything is "free" within communism.

@redandgreen14 @b3yond Of course. Progress is progress, however incremental, and we should recognize it when it happens so that it encourages us to do more and keep going ✊ :opensource:

@redandgreen14 @b3yond @aadilayub you're asking the right questions, but in my experience it's primarily librarians and scholars who are pushing for #OpenAccess, not capitalism. What corporations are doing is setting up partnerships with universities and other publicly-funded research institutions, under contracts that allow them to privatize all the resulting knowledge as copyrights, patents, trade secrets, plant breeders rights and various other forms of "intellectual property".

@redandgreen14 @b3yond @aadilayub they are also buying up the publishing companies that own the rights to academic journals, and extracting huge fees from uni libraries by bundling one or two high reputation journals with dozens of obscure ones. #OpenAccess is a threat to both these extractive models. It's a push to de-commodify academic knowledge, which makes it inherently anti-capitalist (even if that's not the motivator for most activists involved)

@b3yond one step for science one step back for free speech.

@b3yond It is going to fuck over grad students to no end, FYI.

Open access journals charge to publish with them (even the non-profit ones have to cover their bills). This means that a lot of professors aren't going to bother publishing lower impact research, which screws over grad students who are desperate for more papers for their CV or resume.

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