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“They want 1939 Germany but they're going to get 1789 France if they keep fucking around.”

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@benroyce

Its not going to end wel nor normally…

@xs4me2

i remind myself of under and look at spain today

doesn't mean spain is utopia today

doesn't mean "it's going to be ok, relax"

it means getting better is real

but:

1. we have a lot fucking work to do

2. there is a lot of fucking suffering ahead of us

3. do not accept nor

as long as we *fight* we can right this rotten ship

biggest ally of :

lazy indifference

:

get off your fucking asses and fight

@benroyce @xs4me2

Not sure What it’s going to take 💯👍

@jm101 @xs4me2

i know what it's going to take

it's been really fucking easy since fucking gore v bush in 2000:

you stupid fucking lazy ass moronic americans:

YOU. NEED. TO. FUCKING. .

if it comes to molotov cocktails then i'm throwing molotov cocktails

but that's a failure

some airhead fuckwits romanticize that bullshit

it's massive suffering!

narcissistic college sophomores cosplaying revolutionary thinking they're in a fucking movie: deeply cringe

just fucking vote shitheads

@benroyce @jm101 @xs4me2 Elmo messed with our votes!! That and Russian interference aren't helping. However I agree wholeheartedly that people need to fucking vote!!!!!!!!!

@otownKim @benroyce @jm101 @xs4me2 With respect (because I'm a poll worker and take this stuff seriously): I wish fewer people would joke about this stuff.

Elmo didn't do shit. I sat behind the table and looked at people coming in, then saw the returns that night. Even with anonymous votes, at the level of an individual polling station you can gauge the vibe of the room by the familiar faces you see and the familiar faces you don't.

People just didn't show up to vote for Harris. Period. I thought lefties had learned their lesson in 2016, but apparently I gave them too much credit and they needed to be told twice.

@mark
> People just didn't show up to vote for Harris. Period. I thought lefties had learned their lesson in 2016, but apparently I gave them too much credit and they needed to be told twice

Funny, I was thinking exactly the same thing about the Democrat leadership and their candidates choices. The left didn't turn up, because they didn't have a candidate on the ballot. Period.

@roknrol @otownKim @benroyce @jm101 @xs4me2

@strypey @mark @roknrol @otownKim @jm101 @xs4me2

that's not the way it works

you have it backwards

you don't get your candidate, and then you show up

you show up, and then you get your candidate

you're shifting blame away from lazy entitlement

lazy entitlement is the problem and why we don't see more candidates on the left

people better fucking show up in like a fucking mob

@benroyce
> you don't get your candidate, and then you show up

So in a parallel universe where the candidate choices were reversed, you'd be dressing down the left for not turning up for Drumpf, and blaming them for Harris and her techbro mates demolishing the federal government? Spare me.

> lazy entitlement is the problem

Sure is. The Democrats think they're entitled to the left's votes, however right wing their candidates. Turns out they're not 🤷‍♂️

@mark @roknrol @otownKim @jm101 @xs4me2

@strypey @mark @roknrol @otownKim @jm101 @xs4me2

"i'm not lifting a finger until angels sing and magic perfect candidate appears"

🤣🤣🤣

you're the problem in the world

you really are

you need to fucking vote

and when you do, you get what you want

if you don't you get nothing

that's it

that's rock of gibraltar reality

no one owes you a fucking thing

you owe the world to show the fuck up

do you understand?

if you don't, as i said, your lazy entitled whiny bs is the problem in the world

@benroyce
You can shoot the messenger all you want. But the hard truth is that nobody was excited enough about voting for Harris to get their friends out to vote for her. That's on the muppets who thought anointing an heir was a better idea than holding a primary 🤷‍♂️

Also, Orange Stalin wouldn't have even got a first term if Dem plutocrats hadn't screwed Bernie out of a nomination he arguably won. So there's that.

@mark @roknrol @otownKim @jm101 @xs4me2

@strypey "That's on the muppets who thought anointing an heir was a better idea than holding a primary " That's some Russian troll talk right there. 😀 @benroyce @mark @roknrol @otownKim @jm101 @xs4me2

@mfennvt
> That's some Russian troll talk right there

Please explain the logic underlying that conclusion. Lots of people argued for a primary after Biden stepped down, even in the liberal centre. In hindsight, I think it's pretty obvious wr were right. How does pointing this out make me a Russian or a troll?

@benroyce @mark @roknrol @otownKim @jm101 @xs4me2

@strypey @mfennvt @roknrol @otownKim @jm101 @xs4me2 There was no chance for a primary after Biden stepped down. "That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works."

Elections actually cost money, volunteered space, and sub-minimum-wage-paid time of under-compensated volunteers (hello!) and when they are held is encoded into state law. There is no state with a contingency plan for "If the candidate chosen by the primary process drops out of the race."

Traditionally, the contingency plan is... That candidate nominates someone else they support to run in their stead. Everything was done correctly, and if American voters don't know how their own system works, that's on them.

Ben's right about heart... Leftists really didn't demonstrate anything approximating a high intelligence or comprehension of the government they propose to provide answers for in this election.

And if they don't even understand what's already here enough to be effective, why the fuck should anyone trust them to provide a better alternative?

Ben Royce 🇺🇦

@mark @strypey @mfennvt @roknrol @otownKim @jm101 @xs4me2

you're responding to a fool whose answer is to change the system instead of voting

...you know, change the system

that thing you do after you win the vote

🤔 🤔 🤔

🤣 🤣 🤣

at least the trolls are stupid

@benroyce @strypey @mfennvt @roknrol @otownKim @jm101 @xs4me2

Right? As if these are mutually exclusive or one isn't a years-long commitment and the other is literally an hour-ish twice a year.

They aren't competing objectives.

But on the plus side, he did get a chance to lecture a poll-worker on the interface between parties and states regarding the state-taxpayer-funded election machinery and how we could just run that multi-million-dollar process one more time, illegally, with money that just poofed into existence from fairyland.

So he has that going for him, which is nice.

@mark @strypey @mfennvt @roknrol @otownKim @jm101 @xs4me2

you don't understand

instead of voting we get our gundam suits and defeat capitalism

everyone knows we get the power to enact vast changes... by not voting

🤪

😂

why are people so fucking stupid?

@benroyce @strypey @mfennvt @roknrol @otownKim @jm101 @xs4me2 Yeah! Just like the French Revolution!

goes and reads any fucking history book about France between 1789 and 1870

... Unfortunately, I have some notes on trying to do things like the French Revolution did.

@benroyce @mark @strypey @mfennvt @roknrol @otownKim @xs4me2

Democrats have won the vote 😂😂

Frankly it’s not bad enough yet

But you all are missing the point

I’m tempted to vote Republican after your argument 💯😎👍

@mark @jm101

no man, we can wear cool revolutionary cosplay and spout college sophomore cringe sophistry and look cool flexing, accelerationism is totally cool man!

😂

@jm101 @mark @strypey @mfennvt @roknrol @otownKim @xs4me2

yes! a democrat said mean things on teh intarwebs! so i'm voting MAGA!

🤣 🤣 🤣