A GUI observation: Successful GUIs, for the most part, never adapted to widescreens.

In fact, just as widescreen adoption was taking off in the mid 2000s, GUIs instead got *taller*, with things like the Ribbon concept.

@bhtooefr There's only one thing to do... get rid of widescreens.

@bhtooefr I feel like the only reason I'm happy using an 2560x1080 screen is because it feels like working on two seamless 1280x1024 screens with a tiny bit more vertical space. That next to my 1600x1200 NEC makes for a nice workspace. I never understood 16:9.

@halfur @bhtooefr Ever since I went 1600x1200 (Sun-badged NEC as it happens), anything less than that has felt too short for me, no matter how wide it is.

@tsundoku @halfur @bhtooefr

One day in the far far future I'm just going to get one of those 3440x1440 displays.

Other displays I'd like: the Surface Studio, since I find 3:2 a reasonable compromise for most of what I do.

@coryw @tsundoku @halfur @bhtooefr Yeah, if I had to replace my ultrawide screen I'd probably go for 3440x1440 too, if I could afford it by then. I got lucky with my current 2560x1080 one. 20% off as it was B-Stock, because the packaging was damaged.

@halfur @coryw @bhtooefr I think I would like some 3:2 desktop displays, but we'll probably never see any, will we. We probably won't see any regular laptops with them, either; just Surface-style convertibles.

@tsundoku @halfur @coryw Yeah, 3:2 desktop is unlikely, unfortunately.

As far as laptops with 3:2 displays, I know of a few - the Surface Laptop, the Chuwi LapBook 12.3, the Huawei MateBook X and MateBook X Pro, the Google Pixelbook, and the Samsung Chromebook Plus and Pro are all 3:2.

@bhtooefr @halfur @coryw I probably should have said "business laptop." All of these closely resemble the Surface family, which makes me think the presence of 3:2 displays is nothing more than a few vendors noticing the economies of scale created by Microsoft and putting its suppliers' panels in their own variants. All touchscreen convertibles or UltraBooks (if that is still what people call them). It would be nice if that sparked interest in them elsewhere, but I'm not counting on it.

@tsundoku @halfur @coryw Although some of those are unique panels created custom for those machines, not just Surface castoffs.

@bhtooefr @halfur @coryw In that case I suppose the market has just decided that 3:2 is only suitable for this very specific kind of laptop. That is unfortunate.

@tsundoku @bhtooefr @halfur

Indicative of the overall situation with non-wide on desktop. The only non-wide monitors you can buy are 1024x768 and 1280x1024 at 15, 17 and 19 respectively, basically to slot in on industrial systems.

@coryw @tsundoku @bhtooefr @halfur If you're lucky you might get your hands on a 4:3 1600x1200 20"/21" screen, but those are typically high range Eizo or NEC screens, with a price reflecting the small market. With a bit of luck one can find one of those on ebay though.

@halfur @tsundoku @bhtooefr

Are there any made new? @tsundoku and I have Dell P1914Ses which we got in ~2014-2015, and those have IPS, DisplayPort, and some other nice stuff, but the next newest 1600x1200 displays I know of are min. 10 years old.

@coryw @halfur @tsundoku @bhtooefr I think there are Eizo screens (e.g. S2133) made for medical use, but those are about $800.

@halfur @tsundoku @bhtooefr

Yeah, there's a huge rift between Eizo's 1600x1200 display and the Dell P1914S (and the current version) which were under $200 a pop.

Eizo has a few 1:1 (1920x1920 and 2160x2160) monitors too, which are intriguing. I don't have any specific need to go that far.

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