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I think governments should run a publicly owned non-profit email service. It’s weird that you need an email address to do all sorts of governmental things like pay your taxes and so on, but the only providers are foreign commercial companies and they usually run on a business model of data-mining and advertising. And email is used for all sorts of important authentication. Why are we not worried about this?

@bpeel I've been saying for ages that I think the post office should have a tax payer run email service which is free from profit, advertising and any usage other usage of my data.

Not sure why that never happened. I hate having to trust private companies which by definition need to turn a profit which muddy their motives for handling my post (albeit electronic).

@bpeel My grandparents used to get their internet service and email from the local phone cooperative (this was Vermont). Legalizing and incentivizing municipal broadband would be a way to get us closer to your goal

@bpeel Same about cell phone services. Here I can't open a bank account without one or do things of similar nature. So even that I never use one, I need one to function with society's institutions.

@bpeel the question is, who do you trust more? Should emails have the same privacy protection than postal mail? (Yes)

Cynicisms aside, you are 100% right.

@bpeel I understand your concern, and people who are not able to provide their own email should be offered affordable alternatives. I would suggest offering subsidies for people to pay for a reliable internet/email service, and/or
local companies providing these services.

For myself, I would never consider using a centralized government email service, but I'm also in the (rare?) position of being able to run my own email infrastructure on my own servers.

@bpeel I think Germany did this already with demail. Having the government read your email or having Google read it is a devils choice. Really more independent email systems are needed, but I fully appreciate how tricky that is within the current paradigm which assumes a high level of centralization and suffers from overblocking of independent servers regardless of whether they send spam or not.

In the mean time there are things like riseup or tutanota.
@bob @bpeel demail has it's own flaws such as no end-2-end encryption as the reencrypt the mail on the server. Delivered to your inbox means that you have accepted the mail and are responsible for meeting any deadlines and obligations, once you have a demail account you cannot opt out of it for official correspondence etc.

The security concept and the implementation has been widely criticised by a lot of people, including the CCC.

@bpeel Germany actually tried something like that in the 00s but it was a bureaucratic poorly implemented mess

@bpeel@mastodon.social Bad idea. Governments should host their mail first (including embassies and consulate) and not the mail of their citizens.
They can give grants for people who self host YunoHost, I'm okay with that.
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