It is more than just a warning sign when two experts on fascism (Snyder and Stanley) leave the US citing political developments - it's the canary fleeing the coalmine:
https://dailynous.com/2025/03/25/stanley-from-yale-to-toronto/
When people like these leave, you know it's bad.
️ @brembs I heard the news about Tim Snyder coming to my town yesterday. I had mixed feelings about it. I mean, of course he's welcome, but unhappy about the reasons for the move.
And yes, the migration is already happening and is going to have consequences.
And it's a big difference if experts or, say, biologists are leaving. This is a big "get out as quickly as possible while you still can" sign.
@brembs Yes, indeed... Unfortunately, way too similar to the signs in 1933 Germany.
@brembs Does somebody have a link about Snyder leaving the US?
@brembs I see the article links to his website at Munk School, but I want confirmation that it is not a double affiliation. I would like to share it with my Central European folk (where he is quite a big deal among some intellectuals, and for a good reason).
That page from Munk is the only thing I have atm.
Thank you. This is the first article I've seen that quotes Synder and Shore.
Here's one in English:
https://www.torontotoday.ca/local/education/university-toronto-hires-three-prominent-yale-professors-worried-about-trump-10433643
@jamesbritt @brembs Thank you! Now I've also got a link from Yale Daily News:
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2025/03/27/three-prominent-yale-professors-depart-for-canadian-university-citing-trump-fears/
@brembs If the universities fail to protect their staff, they don't deserve to have staff
Burn of the Day regarding how dangerous the current regime is:
"it's the canary fleeing the coal mine."
@brembs surely the canary was months, if not years ago?
@brembs According to Wikipedia Snyder's on leave from Yale in 2025-2026 and will be at the U of Toronto/Munk Institute in that time.
"Stanley writes that he has been “very happy at Yale, with the department and the university,” but that he wants “to raise my kids in a country that is not tilting towards a fascist dictatorship.”
@brembs I like the picture, but his statement is so clear, that it's not really fitting the canary?
"Stanley writes that he has been “very happy at Yale, with the department and the university,” but that he wants “to raise my kids in a country that is not tilting towards a fascist dictatorship.”"
Why not? To me, this reads "I wanted to get out before it's too late"?
@brembs Yeah, i thought the Canary Warrant/escaping Canary is meant to be without saying the obvious because it's not possible/legal to say the obvious?
Oh no, I didn't mean to imply that, sorry.
@brembs Both of these academics are fleeing the US, heading to Canada 
@brembs it must be nice to have the resources to just flee oppression...
@brembs pilcrepap noitarepo
@brembs most of us are living barely payday-to-payday. Only the upper class have this luxury. If the solution is to run away from the growing threat, maybe the French solution will find those fleeing with no mercy.
This was, and probably still is, a discussion during and after the German Nazi regime as well.
I normally would kinda agree, but in case of historians who still know the truth about the past: in a fascist regime they would at some point, be made silent (maybe incarcerated or killed) so that they cannot remind the public of what was and their knowledge would be gone
When they leave, they can build up databases and write books and activly push information into the country from outside.
Their input to resistance needs freedom of speech and ears to listen.
Excellent point!
In Germany, where I live, this has been under discussion for a long time.
German too
I learned from history this:
There are different kinds of fighters in a revolution:
The ones who not only protest but take even aggressive action if needed
And those
Whose duty it is to preserve what can't be forgotten. And if that means to take it away to a safe place until the fight is over:that's exactly what they have to do.
Resistance needs both
The ones taking the regime down, destroying,and those to build it up again.
One without the other is useless
Yes! If everyone does their best in restoring democracy, the efforts are more likely to be successful.
Makes a lot of sense.
Humans need a goal to fight for.
If destruction is the only cause (even if it is destruction of evil) and there is no vision of a future, than the action of revolution and resistance is deeply flawed and just destructive.
It needs a vision and resources (at least in mind) of the world we want our children to live in.
Otherwise fight and aggression becomes the baseline, which is as bad as evil "order"
Visionaries are crucial too, even if they don't fight with weapons.
@v_d_richards @brembs thank you for further discussing this. I see your point.
Let's all hope that we all in the western world can stop this madness before it is too late (the far right parties get stronger in many european counrtries too 
).
Wouldn't it be great if at some point in the future, we all can laugh about this and the Memes it brought us? Sigh
@v_d_richards @brembs I hope the current administration is only as effective as Rodrigo Duterte, in the Philippines. They ousted him and he is now under arrest.
Hope!
Without hope, we wouldn't be here, and nobody would be able to fight back.
That is right.
There is a way to stop this. We just have to find it and firmly believe that our universe is the one destined to let democracy and humanitarian thoughts prevail.
If we stop fighting, we've already lost.
But as long as somebody still resists and fights back, even if it is only one person, fascism hasn't won.
One grain can tip the scale, so let's all be on the right side and our chances grow. 
This is not a small thing.
This is trains out of Germany into Switzerland. This is "The Sound of Music" this is Ann Frank.
Yes, agreed. This is totally not a small thing!
@brembs no it's not. The canary in the coal mine were the minorities screaming that Trump was a fascist when he came down the escalator.
This is two privileged feckless "experts" who said fuck all for a decade and ran at the first sign they might be affected.
These aren't experts, these are the worst of people
i also know it isn't exactly profiles in courage for these people to give us all advice about what to do about fascism when their own advice for themselves is to run for the hills & leave the vulnerable among us to be f'd
Yes, this has been (and, to some extent still is) a question around people over here fleeing the Nazis in Germany, back in the days. Not everyone is cut out to fight back...