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Oldschool fediverse phrases, from about 10y ago:

- TZAG: Time Zone Appropriate Greeting (preferred over "good morning")
- TZAF: Time Zone Appropriate Farewell
- #contextpatrol : when someone posted a response which wasn't linked to the original conversation, someone might link the conversation with #contextpatrol (the old StatusNet (ie, GNU Social) interface made not doing this accidentally easily)
- #vaguejokes : an obscure joke that was not really worth or more fun unexplained

Something I also miss: threaded conversations were the norm. Yes, in microblogging! Some of the most intense and interesting conversations about free software philosophy and licensing happened in threads that shot way off to the edge of the page

@cwebber Carl and I have been known to go off on extended :oldmanyellsatcloud: rants about how dial-up BBS software had better thread handling than modern forums and such.

I have occasionally debated about just writing something that will shove everything into QWK packets. Long live yarn: vex.net/~x/yirx/

Abbie Normal @catonano

@gamehawk @cwebber

you (Karen C) are spot on

in the old days there were First Class and Telefinder

They were BBS systems that used to run on Macintoshes (before MacOsX)

They could run embedded in a GUI only, as it should be

They were waaay better than anything I see today

The freedom number 1 (to run the program) was absolutely guaranteed

And @nightpool this is a screenshot of MacSoup, an email and newgroups client back then

Now tose are threaded conversations !
google.com/search?q=macsoup&cl:

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@gamehawk @cwebber @nightpool

then came twitter and redefined the threaded conversations idea to make it more prone to "engagement" and less to thoughts

this is where we are today

@gamehawk @cwebber @nightpool

I still sorely miss Eudora, the best email client ever.

The quality of the experience has been consistently worsening since "the web"

@catonano @gamehawk @nightpool Many email clients do a good job, especially mu4e and gnus en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gnu

I've thought about adding an activitypub method for gnus. That would be a heck of an entertaining thing to have.

@cwebber @gamehawk @nightpool

maybe they do a good job but making them run is a challenge

Eudora was an icon: you clicked it and the window popped up

They may grant the freedoms number 2, 3 and 4 but the freedom number 1 (to run the program) is severely restricted !!

at the time using an email client didn't require to be a system administrator !

@cwebber @gamehawk @nightpool

gnus ? Oh God

After about 20 years of disperate research I finallly found a decent guide to conffigure it

But I lost my motivation in the meantime

I'll stick to the gmail interface

The qualty of the experience matters !

It is ACTUAL freedom !
Thhe first one !!

@cwebber @gamehawk @nightpool

Chris, it's not personal of course,

I am elaborating my own personal take to software freedom, these days

@catonano Do you have a list of these freedoms that you keep referring to by numbers? Are the numbers well established/known? I tried googling for them with GNU but didn't find a relevant list, but I might've searched the wrong thing.