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Why does #Phanpy only offer me my custom emojis, but ignore the myriad standard emojis that other Masto frontends, & Masto itself, offer me no problems?

Chee Aun 🤔

@MsDropbear42 dev here 👋

Phanpy only shows the (logged-in) instance's custom emojis, not the standard emojis. I encourage folks to use your operating system's emoji picker as they'll work across *all* apps and sites, not just Phanpy. Most recent operating systems now have shortcuts for triggering the system-level emoji picker (it's easier on mobile than on desktop, for some reason), so you'll have to research a little on how to trigger them 🙇‍♂️

@cheeaun Oh, it's by design, not a bug? Well, at least now the mystery is solved, thank you... but i can't pretend i'm not disappointed. Best wishes.

cc:
@jerry
@kkarhan

@MsDropbear42 @jerry @kkarhan yes, it's purposely not included due to maintenance overhead it introduces (emojis are *huge* and doesn't make sense for every site to include their own copies)

I use emojis a lot and still think that system-level emoji pickers are a better UX overall 🙇‍♂️

@cheeaun @jerry @kkarhan I understand your logic, & as a non-coder myself have no right to quibble at your design choice from a technical perspective.

That said, here's a typical example of why having no inbuilt standard emoji-picker in P is inconvenient for me from a UX perspective.

I use many emojis, but my most common ones are maybe a dozen or so which get heavy usage. When i am typing my draft toots & reach a point where i'd like to insert one of those emojis, i like continuing to type, say " :shru " to generate the dropdown list of candidates, from which i then quickly arrow down to select the woman shrugging one, & keep typing my toot. This is much faster than needing to take my hands off the keyboard to acquire the emoji via an external GUI tool.

@MsDropbear42 I understand your point. I don't know what OS you're using, but I feel that it's best to research on this. E.g. on macOS, it'll be Ctrl + Cmd + space, while newer macbooks have dedicated 1-click emoji key (I use this). There are 3rd-party apps that can help too (I bought some in the past, to speed up my emoji-typing 😂)

Once set up, it'll work on *any* sites and apps, and it can remember your last used emojis.

@cheeaun I use #ArchLinux #KDEPlasma, the latter having an excellent GUI emoji app. Fwiw i don't believe this fully supplants a native emoji-picker in a browser-based fediverse client, simply for the reason i gave. Yes it does launch easily, & yes it remembers a large number of recently-used emojis; it is very good. But there is not & afaik cannot be integrated comms between it & the toot-compose box in a browser, such that typing in :shru engages that external app instead of the client's emoji-picker, therefore necessitating moving from keyboard to mouse to select & copy the target emoji. Ofc that's doable, it's just comparatively inefficient.

Thanks very much for engaging in an interesting discussion about this matter.