It's almost 2019, and every application that wants to share stuff via "the cloud" must still implement support for each cloud provider separately, even though WebDAV has existed for over a decade.

In other words, "the cloud" is really just a lie told by people trying to trick you into handing over your precious files and locking yourself into their walled garden. If it ain't standards-based and interoperable, it's not "the" anything. It's "a" piece of shit.

@freakazoid To be fair if every single frontend tool and every single library for a standard seem to suck, maybe the standard just wasn't good. I don't believe in coincidences on such a big scale. And except with Subversion I've only had problems with WebDAV. And Apache config for svn wasn't exactly fun, just.. good enough.

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@wink @freakazoid exactly. I would prefer a more decentralized and standards-based approach, but I’ve never seen WebDAV work reliably. To put the blame entirely on implementations doesn’t seem rooted in reality.

@chucker @wink I suspect the issue with WebDAV is the typical chicken-and-egg problem. Web servers were pretty shitty for a long time, too. I think there just hasn't been enough demand for a standards-based filesystem that works well over the Internet. There have been multiple attempts in the past that didn't end up going anywhere too, like Coda. There's NFSv4+krb5p and OpenAFS, but both expect to run at the OS level, which is pretty much a non-starter these days because OS innovation has ceased

@wink @chucker But even if you're correct and WebDAV is fatally flawed, my criticism becomes "It's almost 2019 and we still don't have a standard way to manage file stores over the Internet." It still shows how badly the computing world sucks.

@chucker @wink All marketing is lies to trick people. If they weren't trying to trick you they'd say "our computers" instead of "the cloud".

@wink @chucker "Use our proprietary storage service! Store your critical data with a company that will only lose a little bit of reputation if they lose or corrupt it, while your company goes out of business!"

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