What you should not forget is that: public posts are public, private posts may still be public if sent to dishonest servers, DMs are not protected by encryption and rely on both involved instance's honesty.
If you allow everyone to follow you your data may get mined just as on the commercial platforms.
If you have a commercial bot (in disguise) in your followers, it will see and mine those toots.
Just being a federation is no silver bullet to the privacy issue. But ou aren't the product anymore.
That would also be a good solution. I think the main thing is people expect it to be in a single location/interface and that if you're interacting with someone on that platform one way, you can transition to another privacy level on the same platform. I want to be able to DM my fediverse homies in my fediverse application. But I don't really care what makes that happen on the back end.
I think having or not having the functionality users are trained to expect will affect adoption. I do use Mastodon less b/c for me Twitter is a nexus where ppl I know from a bunch of different places congregate and a lot of my use is in DM chats. I don't know what the solution is to that. Mastodon doesn't support it & it's hard enough to budge ppl off a platform w/o telling them now they need to join two to do what the one does.
@celesteh That's a good point I haven't thought of. I have had dishonest mastodon servers in mind when I posted that. There have been servers in the wild that have lied about their user stats and one has to assume that not everyone is following even the mastodon extras. And yes activitypub will close at least this gap. Thank you for this addition!
@ckeen I think privacy isn't real anymore especially on the internet just thanks to web scraping. not saying the effort is futile but I think what decentralized apps like mastodon is just giving the power back to the people. i definitely agree that we aren't the product anymore. I have #DeleteFacebook and #DeleteGoogle . Just doing that is a huge step in the right direction. For email I use #Protonmail which encrypts your emails, and doesn't do ads. I should def learn to host my own email though
@nadir I am not sure what you mean by that. The context of this post was to make clear the current state of the post settings on mastodon instances.
Even if you use Tor to reach mastodon this applies.
I don't know of any Darknet and don't even know what that means. There are hidden services yes and maybe even GNU social nodes set up as hidden services but how does that apply to the users potentially misled by the mastodon wording?
(and yes there's i2p etc... too)
@nadir retroshare relies on the same as freenet in 'dark net mode' IIRC. Which is you connect only to people you trust and there are no moles or snitches inside the network. Both do not conceal that they are running retroshare/freenode per se. so that in itself might be a problem.
@ckeen Also, did you hear of the freedombox project? I was interested in it when i was interested in darknets too. I think what you said applies for it too (not sure, like said, i gave up on the problem): https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/LeavingTheCloud