Dear university computer science/informatics/infosec programs of the world, stop letting students graduate without command line experience. We still need that experience.
And of course, the #Chinese are producing some super clever professionals, but there's the disadvantage of language barrier and physical proximity in my case.
Generalising but not much.
I would like to favourite your message but that seems somehow wrong. 🙂
To be fair, from the name I guess your subject of study might be more theoretical oriented, although I can't really see how one could do meaningful data analysis without a fair amount of practical #scripting skills.
Infact it has been a mixture between economic studies and tech. And I graduated almost 10 years ago - focus was less on data. It is not like we didn't have tech oriented classes - programming, sql, operating systems...but you could easily pass most the tests without knowing what you were doing.
@0 @climagic At #RUC in #Denmark there are no computer labs. Students bring their own laptops, and not a single student in the college of school and technology uses #linux. All MAC & Microsnot Winblows. Papers are written with #Google docs or MS Office. #LaTeX is tolerated but discouraged. The university is dependant on #GAMCAF.
@climagic @0 The Danes are quite hostile toward the mere suggestion of using #emacs in the university => https://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/acwc2b/how_a_danish_university_dependent_on_corporate/edcg6ep/
@climagic I agree, absolutely!! command line experience is so important
> Dear university computer science/informatics/infosec programs of the world, stop letting students graduate without command line experience. We still need that experience.
I'm really glad that MIT's The Missing Semester of Your CS Education (https://missing.csail.mit.edu/) exists to teach people the basics of the command line – and really annoyed that it *needs* to.
@climagic God, it'd be nice if they all came out with basic sql & regex too.
I don't get how you code anything without running into regex
In my CS degree, we never took a course in C programming even though at that time that was the language used in most of our classes. Students were expected to figure it out as they needed and resources were made available for students having trouble. A few complained, but generally we understood the principles were the lesson, not the tools
@climagic Some students also complained we should be learning on PCs instead of Sun boxes since that's what they'd use in the real world.
I wonder if students come into CS without that intrinsic love for tinkering and getting into the dirty bits, as opposed to looking for solid career prospects.
But then, most of us were coming from playing with our parents DOS systems or Apple II's at school, and GUIs at that point were often buggy or seen as "computers for the rest of them".
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